On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Jacob Anawalt wrote:
> So it sounds like their design works on the heat output of up to a 
> P4-2.4Ghz processor, and the case design has issues with the airflow to 

that's what i've seen ...

and if you stick your finger ont heother 14 boxes w/ p4-2.8 cpus
it'd be foolishly throwing $$ down the drain in a shuttle box
        - cpu dies in 1/2 life-cycle for every 10C increase in
        operating temp

> I don't know if I'm convinced of your final statement about the 
> heatpipes vs the finned block working an order of magnitude better. One 
> of my friends has the same CPU, a jet engine fan and a huge copper 
> heatsink, runs with the side off his case, and about 10 degrees C hotter 
> than mine. I've read other people get the heat range I do with aircooled 
> systems.

cooling is a factor of...
        - air flow
        - density of air
        - cleanliness of air

        - grade of copper/aluminum
        - smoothness of copper/aluminum heatsink
        - thermal conductivity of heatsink compound
        - thermal conductivity of copper, aluminum
        - thermal blah-parameters of copper, aluminum, ...

        - source of the heat

... lots of variables...
        - identical cpu and indentical heatsink will give you 
        different ambient temp in different cases w/ different heat sink
        compound

- problem with p4-2.4 and p4-2.8 was way way way too noticeable of
  heatsink problems  ( off the shelf.. un-modified )
        - heat problem is so bad, i will NOT attempt to fix(customize)
        the heat problem and instead just say/flag that they have a
        problem and let them decide ... i'm not gonna replace 13pcs of
        $275 cpu
        
- so now i know, not to use p4-2.8 in those boxes ...
  whie some other versions, variations might work ... donno ...
        - try it and see ...

c ya
alvin



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