On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:44:32 -0400, 
Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 02:10:12PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> | On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:51:37 -0500 "P. Kallakuri"
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> | > i cannot find what process is keeping them. i know that i disabled
> | > ICMP requests on my gateway, 
> |
> | Ungh.  Why?  Why disable ICMP.  I never figured that one out.
> | Anything goes wrong with that line and you'll need to remember to
> | turn it back on so as not to waste the tech's time.  "Uh, I can't
> | ping your machine, are you sure it is plugged in?"  "Oh, wait, hold
> | on, I turned off that diagnostic tool."
> 
> Disabling ICMP causes worse problems than the scenario Steve
> described.  Suppose you are trying to connect to a remote system, but
> the server is "partially" down.  (for example you are trying to use
> HTTP but their web server isn't running)  Instead of an immediate
> "Connection Refused" message, you'll sit for around 2 minutes before
> you get a "Connection Timed Out" message.  Why?  Well, Connection
> Refused is indicated by an ICMP packet but you never pass those on to
> the application.  The application then sees nothing until the timeout
> timer expires.  ICMP is extremely useful and is, in fact, required for
> correct operation of TCP and IP.  Do not block ICMP.

..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in tarpits, 
to help slow vira propagation:  http://labrea.sourceforge.net/ and
http://netfilter.org/documentation/pomlist/pom-extra.html#ipt_TARPIT

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.


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