-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-04 18:10, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > IMHO you should at least quote him with the proper context. > (E.g.: his clarifications in some messages that followed).
IMHO his clarifications just confirm that *IMHO* he takes the decision to remove packages too lightly. I admit that I gave a short quote of a rather long thread, but I did give a link to the whole discussion. The whole discussion started with a bug report [1] of Daniel R.: > This weekend (1-June-2008) several important gnome metapackages have been > removed from Debian Lenny repositories: > > gnome-core > gnome-desktop-environment > gnome-cups-manager > update-manager > update-notifier > libgnomecupsui1.0-1c2a > > Now, gnome desktop does not appear in Aptitude's tasks. If a release assistant writes what I quote in this context, it alarms me. There already have been discussions about whether there should be a goal of keeping testing in a usable state vs. breaking it 'on purpose' (see [1,2]). So, I don't think I put the quote out of proper context. He did admit that gnome-core and gnome-desktop-environment were removed on mistake (I don't blame anyone for a mistake), but I do have the impression that the update-* packages as well as ntp (not mentioned there) were removed *despite* the release managers wanting them back for release. And I personally don't think that this is a good idea. Packages *temporarily* removed from testing while making testing less usable IMHO is not a good idea. Packages removed from testing, because there is little or no chance to get them in releasable shape, however, is a good idea. That all is just the very humble opinion of a user of testing and who is not a DD. To make things clear: I believe that as a whole the developers and the release managers do an *excellent* job and I thank them for their big efforts. Testing is the very proof just by how much debian gets better every day. Thank you soooooo much!!!!! Debian rocks! Resistance is futile! ;-) Cheers, Johannes [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=484009 [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/06/msg00060.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIR8MlC1NzPRl9qEURAp0IAJ487goZTqmP+k1dobIDmsKlK0huXwCfaz9u J/qiXxd+pFQ9jlJvHLZdbm8= =4oxm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]