-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:12, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Do you really mean that societies > are better off when governed by tyrants than when governed by > democratically elected governments?
Actually, what I said was "monarchy and oligarchy", not "tyranny". As any American who finds himself on the "no fly list" if tyranny cannot happen with a democratically elected government, and they will assure you it most certainly can. > Do you think that this has been > historically true WRT the actual tyrants and actual democratic > governments that the world has experienced? Again with the tyrants. If you want to compare tyrants and non-tyrants, sure. Any non-tyrant is going to be better than a tyrant, elected or not. But if you want to compare _systems_, you could try looking at reviews and excerpts of Hanse Hermann Hoppe's _Democracy, the God That Failed_. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy:_The_God_That_Failed Agree or disagree, it's always interesting when someone attacks one of the present-day dogmas, like Galeleo saying the earth moved around the sun, or Maddison saying that a limited government can be restrained by a document that that same government enforces. :^) Or that a massive software development can be accomplished without deadlines and managers. Curt- - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBRfFkoS9Y35yItIgBAQKrPwf9FnPhIIoJ7m8akLPL9Mx/+I8yseJkE/wE 8NryMGVN1Mahsi0at7fxsJ2+TBvrWrseI9Fk/8mpZyLkrE6RIXoabhc3GFjBkLvn 4D6yAmKfnR0lLkh/v6Z/2BUXBcROT0/7ZB7oVafsg4GdBHMWInHud6B5K6lUcje3 8EcD8ynGx6j6SEyF/tgbwpJd7SNgSfC86hBAfJIOyL5MSzOlS/8HDHRnGTBp4FB7 yQkLxA4tj1HiM+XDXBRRyIgpOOvwFxLsb0m2+4ZmzxNeUVbHEMhc3VsrMVLI5hkV kpI4RT6fHifS9uTZFJ1K1OwI2WczCtmiEuzL4XZx2SSHvRL0+I8g7g== =ZoNE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
