On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:44:01 -0500 Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:12, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard > to say: > > Do you really mean that societies > > are better off when governed by tyrants than when governed by > > democratically elected governments? > > Actually, what I said was "monarchy and oligarchy", not "tyranny". As > any American who finds himself on the "no fly list" if tyranny cannot > happen with a democratically elected government, and they will assure > you it most certainly can. You certainly did mention tyranny; here's the quote: > Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves nothing. At > least in a monarchy or oligarchy, the ruler has some small incentive > to pass on a prosperous nation to their successor. These "elected" > examples of sewage have incentive only to take every bit of loot they > can before their term in office is up. > > At least with a tyrant, they can't use the excuse, "Well, you elected > me. You must _want_ the rape you get." > Democracy works as a decision making process when it is voluntary, > such as the Debian project. But then so does oligarchy (RedHat) and > tyranny (Ubuntu, Slackware). > > The difference, as has been said many times before by better men than > I, is coercion. > > Do you think that this has been > > historically true WRT the actual tyrants and actual democratic > > governments that the world has experienced? > > Again with the tyrants. If you want to compare tyrants and > non-tyrants, sure. Any non-tyrant is going to be better than a > tyrant, elected or not. *You* brought up tyrants, as above. Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
