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On 02/25/07 17:39, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> 95.4% of all statistics are bogus.  So is this one unless you've got
>> a hard reference.
> 
>     To be fair I do not, I am referencing Richard Dawkins' citation of such
> but do not have that reference on hand (Was it in the _God Delusion_ or on his
> web site?).
> 
>> But are there any (non-trivial) secular non-totalitarian governments?
> 
>     Is this more a case of the rampant theism more than anything else?  Hard
> to say that it doesn't work when it really hasn't been tried.  Besides, if I
> want to play that game I can always point out that historically most theistic
> regimes are also totalitarian including most of the modern examples.  ;)

Throughout time, most governments have been absolute monarchies or
theocracies.

I posit that all governments have the totalitarian urge, and, if
possible[0], will become so.

[0] In the past, it was difficult for the *central* government to be
totalitarian when it took 6 weeks to sail across the ocean, march
across the continent, etc.

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