On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 12:18 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Monday 19 February 2007 09:26, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> > > Then that's what you say at the beginning of your email. :)
> > >
> > > These two quotes are guaranteed to garner sympathy:
> > >   "I'm a noob and I don't know enough to know where to begin
> > >   to look."
> > >   "Internet access is flaky, slow and expensive."
> >
> > Differs from list to list, I guess.  In the days when I was still
> > learning Red Hat, just being a noob meant you were flamed,
> > regardless.  The unwritten rule regarding noobs seemed to be:
> >
> > Flame
> > Flame
> > Flame
> > Read his question
> > Flame
> > If he's still on the list, tell him to RTFM (even if he already has)
> > Flame some more
> 
> I found that to be the case with most Linux groups as recently as 2000 
> to about 2002.  Somewhere around 2001 I started using Mandrake, found 
> it did what I needed, had an all-in-one control center I could use 
> while learning how to edit all the separate config files, and the 
> people there actually helped newbies (sorry, I just can't get used 
> to "noob" it just sounds so dorky).  I spent a few years on Mandrake 
> and moved to Libranet, but was driven away by some policies on their 
> mailing list.  By then Sarge was out and I had learned enough to easily 
> handle Debian -- and the nasty attitude of "You're new, and I'm 10x 
> more intelligent than you, so I want to be a brain bully, so flame, 
> flame, flame, rtfm, flame" was gone by then.
> 
> Hal
> 
> 

That's interesting.  The most flaming I've ever seen, other than the
official MS MCSE forum, was on the official Mandrake support forums.
That was during the general time frame you are referencing too.  The
flaming on the MCSE forum was so bad the war spread to other sites as
the self-appointed mafia on the MCSE site follow anyone who opposed
their tactics and interrrupt the sites owned/frequented by those
opposing them.  

The only flaming I've ever seen on this list is pretty mild in
comparison, and I've been subscribed here twice, starting back in 2002.


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