On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:54:46PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 03:40:24PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:04:00AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [..] > > > > Don't reply to this. I'm blocking out this list from now on. > > > > > > I'm curious. I've thought back over this thread and can't recall > > > (without digging through the archives) what happened here that might > > > have provoked this sort of response. > > > > > > I do recall that there was not a lot of good detailed information from > > > OP on the problem, but maybe I missed it. What are we, as a community > > > of trying-to-be-helpful users, doing to cause this reaction? It seems > > > to be happening more and more, though maybe I'm new enough to not see > > > the pattern properly. Clearly this guy is upset, frustrated, but to > > > block out the list that's supposed to be trying to help is > > > disturbing. > > > > I think that some of the problem may be a function of becoming, dare I > > say it, main stream? It used to be, people would just do windows since > > to them it was the only OS and it came with the box (so why change). > > Now people, for a variety of reasons (macs change archetecture, problems > > with constantly paying for new MS stuff, whatever), people who before > > wouldn't consider a *N*X are doing so. And they're not prepared. > > > > They may never have installed an OS before. They figure, get the CD, > > pop it in, click OK, and its done. They're not hackers. They've never > > even opened their boxes. They think a "hard drive" is the whole case > > sitting on the floor. When their expectations aren't realized, they > > get: > > frustrated: what's going on? > > > > scared: I need the computer for work tomorrow. Now what? > > > > Debian Stable doesn't work with their newer hardware. They're scared of > > something called 'testing'. > > > > I think that we need a big "NEW to UNIX-Like Operating Systems like > > Debian?" button on the front page of the web site. It could take them > > to a short introduction about what *N*X is like, and how to get > > documentation and support. > > Kantonix, Mepis, Ubuntu, and others *based* on Debian. > Personally, I don't think that Debian is geared towards newbies but more > towards admins and people who seem to know what they are doing. Hence > the formation of Kantonix, Mepis, Ubuntu, and others *based* on Debian. > > Unfortunately the distinction is not made clear anywhere.
Yes. There's a sharp distinction between distributions based on Debian, such as the above, and subdistributions, which are more like a collection of packages within Debian, such as the medical and educational versions of Debian. -- hendrik > > -- > Chris. > ====== > Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to > etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once > etch goes stable. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
