On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 03:40:24PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:04:00AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [..] > > > Don't reply to this. I'm blocking out this list from now on. > > > > I'm curious. I've thought back over this thread and can't recall > > (without digging through the archives) what happened here that might > > have provoked this sort of response. > > > > I do recall that there was not a lot of good detailed information from > > OP on the problem, but maybe I missed it. What are we, as a community > > of trying-to-be-helpful users, doing to cause this reaction? It seems > > to be happening more and more, though maybe I'm new enough to not see > > the pattern properly. Clearly this guy is upset, frustrated, but to > > block out the list that's supposed to be trying to help is > > disturbing.
> I think that some of the problem may be a function of becoming, dare I > say it, main stream? It used to be, people would just do windows since > to them it was the only OS and it came with the box (so why change). > Now people, for a variety of reasons (macs change archetecture, problems > with constantly paying for new MS stuff, whatever), people who before > wouldn't consider a *N*X are doing so. And they're not prepared. > > They may never have installed an OS before. They figure, get the CD, > pop it in, click OK, and its done. They're not hackers. They've never > even opened their boxes. They think a "hard drive" is the whole case > sitting on the floor. When their expectations aren't realized, they > get: > frustrated: what's going on? > > scared: I need the computer for work tomorrow. Now what? > > Debian Stable doesn't work with their newer hardware. They're scared of > something called 'testing'. > > I think that we need a big "NEW to UNIX-Like Operating Systems like > Debian?" button on the front page of the web site. It could take them > to a short introduction about what *N*X is like, and how to get > documentation and support. Kantonix, Mepis, Ubuntu, and others *based* on Debian. Personally, I don't think that Debian is geared towards newbies but more towards admins and people who seem to know what they are doing. Hence the formation of Kantonix, Mepis, Ubuntu, and others *based* on Debian. Unfortunately the distinction is not made clear anywhere. -- Chris. ====== Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]