Paul Johnson wrote:
> I meant in general, the whole genre of multi-IM software.

This is not fair -- the fact one program is crap (and even commercial one)
doesn't mean that similar programs are crap as well. Windows NT is piece of
sh..t, so Linux has to be bad as well :-).

>> I talked about that with some devs on jdev MUC, and the conclusion was
>> that you would need to make substantial changes to mod_irc and no-one is
>> willing to do that--Erlang and all that stuff.
> 
> Eh, IRC's dying anyway, so I guess it's not a big loss.

The reports of IRC's death have been IMHO greatly exaggerated. Could you
elaborate on this?

> IRC is losing users to IM systems in general, and Jabber in particular
> from the userbase I've encountered, which is to be expected given what we
> saw with SMTP 10 years ago.

Well, the timing is very important. My father when asked by BBC in 1968 what
he thinks about invasion of the Soviet army to the Czech republic said,
that the socialist system is unsustainable and that it will fall apart by
its own weight. And believing that they returned to the Czechoslovakia
(both my dad and my mom were in that time in Oxford, England). Prediction
was correct, just timing was twenty years off ;-).

> The ball is already in motion, and it's probably way too late to try and
> stop it at this point: Instant messaging and groupchat services are
> eventually going to change to XMPP or die.

Well, check your timing -- Debian doesn't have official MUC
(http://www.gatago.com/linux/debian/project/14623966.html), KDE doesn't
have working one (we two are present often at kdetalk.net, but that's not
that much comparing to #kde). Maybe Jabber will win (maybe something will),
but we are certainly not there yet.

Matěj

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