hi ya steve
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Nate Duehr wrote:
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Alvin Oga wrote:
> >
> >> - debian ... free ...
> >> - ubuntu ... commercialized version of debian's "hard work"
> >> which to me is wrong to do.. but oh well..
> >
> > Uhhh, Alvin, you've been spreading a lot of disinformation on this list
> > lately. I mean a LOT of disinformation. This is a prime example. From
> > Ubuntu's front page, emphasis mine:
just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right and i am wrong
so who is jumping on whose ass ??? .. have fun disagree-ing and flaming ..
- and ubuntu does and always have promoted themself as commercial ...
commercial support as their primary business
- sure they have free versions, but they also have not free versions
even suse and redhat has free versions of almost the identical ocde
as what they're selling for $x,000 .. but, that doesn't make them
opensource, free, .. etc .. whatever you wanna call it
- or you want to argue what is opensource too :-)
- it's called "free r/d and free qa dept"
> Ahh... people can go read it for themselves. But Alvin's not wrong.
> He's also not 100% right -- as is typically with these things, the issue
> is more complex than one sentence can adequately display. He just has a
> slightly different viewpoint than yours.
bingo ... one person will take one view ..and others will take a different
view, given that unbuntu has more than one core business idea/entity
> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing/document_view
>
> Some people find the Ubuntu spin-off inappropriate
yup... but there will always be different ways and different reasons
for spinoffs ... some good .. some not so good ...
(why didn't they just
> donate to Debian and try to get a commitment on release cycles?)
that'd be too easy ... and probably because they can't call it "their own
widget"
> Me? I just kick back and enjoy the flamefests and trolling...
yeah.. that's always fun to see who jumps on who .. and why ...
> if
> there's one thing that never changes about the Net and Free Software,
> it's that.
hasn't changed in 30 yrs ...
c ya
alvin
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