On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 09:02:56PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right and i am wrong
You're right. Just because I disagree doesn't make me right and you
wrong. What makes me right and you wrong is the fact that I checked my
sources (Ubuntu's page), cited said source, and provided the reason why my
position is the correct one which also proves your position is completely
wrong.
According to Ubuntu's own page the distribution is free. It is as free as
Debian itself is. The onus of proof for their position is on you.
> - and ubuntu does and always have promoted themself as commercial ...
> commercial support as their primary business
Which is a far cry from "the commercialization of Debian". I hate to
break it to you but a lot of people on this list offer commercial support of
Debian. Furthermore that is one of the business models for Open Source that
RMS (Or was it ER?) proposes time and time again.
> - sure they have free versions, but they also have not free versions
Where's your cite on this? I'd love to see it since right on their main
page they say they don't charge for their enterprise version, either.
> > (why didn't they just
> > donate to Debian and try to get a commitment on release cycles?)
> that'd be too easy ... and probably because they can't call it "their own
> widget"
No, more like it next to impossible to get Debian to stick to a release
schedule. Anyone who has used Debian for years knows this. Hell, anyone who
tracked the release of Sarge knows this. The far easier solution is to take a
snapshot of Debian at certain times and say, "Ok, this has warts, sand them
off and ship it" than to try to effect change on the Debian project as a
whole.
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