%% Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: kl> OK, I've read with great amusement all the chest-thumping going on kl> about MUAs, MTAs and how Microsoft email products are things that kl> you scrape off the bottom of your shoe. ... kl> If there isn't, then I hope the person who stated "anyone who uses kl> MS email products is ignorant" will reconsider their statement.
I'm using Emacs+Gnus+Procmail and get all the power I want. I don't know if it can do everything you want or not; I don't see anything obviously missing. I more wanted to respond to these particular statements. The reason people here don't like MS Email products typically has little to do with how easy they are to use. It's also not true that we have to have actually used these products before abusing them. It may well be (I don't know, myself) that Outlook has the best, simplest to use user interface ever invented. That's not the point. The point is, Outlook etc. cares more about how easy it is for you to send the message. We care more about how easy it is for the _receiver(s)_ of the message to read and understand it. So, when we see Outlook send messages with broken MIME, with bogus default settings like Rich Text that more than doubles the bandwidth and storage capacity required for no reason, with quoting capabilities that defy every real and defacto standard developed over the years, etc., then we say that it is a crappy product and should be avoided and shunned, and we know we're right. And we never once had to run it ourselves. UNIX tools typically start with the basic premise that the underlying behavior must be correct, and user friendly bells and whistles can be added later (and this is starting to happen). It often seems that Microsoft starts from _exactly_ the opposite position. I think (and I think experience has shown this to be correct) that it's much easier to add a nice interface to a fundamentally strong base than it is to go in and fix up a broken base underneath a nice interface. To paraphrase the famous performance enhancement mantra, it doesn't matter how simple the product is to use, if it generates the wrong result. This probably doesn't make much difference in your search, but I thought I'd throw in my $0.02 anyway. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HASMAT--HA Software Methods & Tools "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.