On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:19:25PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: | On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, D-Man wrote: | > | > As Wayne mentioned, minicom and wvdial aren't supposed to authenticate | > or maintain a ppp connection, that is pppd's job :-). minicom is an | > _interactive_ dialer. | | Minicom is a "terminal program" or "comm program"... as in dial up | over a serial line, login, use your shell account.
Ok, sure. I did do a _little_ bit of shell usage while trying to get dial-up to work. Not a useful shell (that I had), just for running 'telnet' to get to the real machines. | > It is only inteneded to dial the modem, no | > more, no less. | | No, it is intended as a comm program. Dialing is comm, right? ;-) | > Also, because it is interactive, it is only really | > useful when determining what the dialog with the ISP should be, and | > then it is essential. | | It is interactive because a comm program would be useless if it | was not. Right, but that means it doesn't do what I want ;-). | <...> | > I used minicom to see what my ISP sends and what it expects. With the | > knowledge of these "expect-send" pairs I set up a chat script (chat | > controls the modem and is driven by a set of expect-send strings in a | > config file) and use 'pon' to dial. | | Sounds like a good use of minicom if you don't have serial access to a | box. Yep. | <...> | > Minicom is a great tool for determining how your ISP | > handles an incoming call, then after that it isn't really useful | > because (AFAIK) it isn't scriptable. | | Yes it is, but if you don't have a dialup shell account the feature | is kinda useless (it simulates keypresses), eh. Yeah, wouldn't help too much then. I do have a dialup shell account and I must login, then run 'ppp', then pppd can do its thing. | Youngsters! What is this world coming to, never heard of a comm prg, | probably don't know what x/y/zmodem and kermit are either. ;) <grin>. I did use some modem program (I don't remember the name now, maybe zmodem) on my Dad's Packard Bell 286 (MS-DOS 3.3) that had a roaring fast 2400 baud modem to connect to a few local BBSes. | just for the fun of it... | I can dial in and read my mail/surf-the-web using a C64 and a comm | program, and if my ZX81 was still working I could hook up a home-built | low-speed modem I built many years ago and use it. Pretty neat. I never did have a comodore -- that Packard Bell was the first machine my dad ever bought. I was like 8 or 9 years old at tht time. | Maybe I'll go have a nap now, I'm feeling old all of a sudden. :) :-). -D