Well, I finally arrived at a work-around of sorts. I removed the Gnus 5.8.3 package and then ran the gnus included with Xemacs 21 package which happened to be Gnus 5.6.45. I found it worked just fine, so after getting the groups I wanted I used it to kill the nndoc+gnus-help:gnus-help group it installs with a new start, i.e. no ~/.newsrc* file of any sort. After doing this I re-installed Gnus 5.8.3 and find it now works flawlessly. It only retrieves the article count for the subscribed groups and the in-line MIME is fantastic! Now I just need to learn the basics of elisp and figure how to customize Xemacs and Gnus for a kick @$$ newsreader.
Thanks to everyone that offered help. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | "None can love freedom Internet | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | heartily, but good Location | Wichita, Kansas USA EM17hs | men; the rest love not Wichita area exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | freedom, but license." http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | -- John Milton