Since name resolution works with 2.0.36, your /etc/resolv.conf is probably fine.
Can you ping or traceroute -n to your DNS successfully with 2.2.12 (use the ip address you have in resolv.conf)? On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 09:23:47AM -0700, Eric Hanchrow wrote: > > Last month I had a problem: in short, I installed potato, and noticed > that name resolution hung, although things worked fine if I used a > numeric IP address. > > I've included below the plea for help that I sent last month. It > describes the problem in detail. > > Well, in case anyone's interested, I have some more information that > leads me to suspect that the problem is in the kernel (and thus, > presumably, in the Vortex driver). Here's what I did: > > * I installed potato from scratch. I did this by installing slink > from an official Debian 2.1 CD, and then doing `apt-get > dist-upgrade' with my /etc/apt/sources.list pointing at > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable > > Thus I wound up with the latest (as of this morning) binaries, but > with the 2.0.36 kernel from the CD. (Apparantly `apt-get > dist-upgrade' didn't automatically give me a new kernel.) This > system worked flawlessly; in particular, name resolution worked > fine. > > * I installed kernel-image-2.2.12 (version 2.2.12-3), and rebooted. > Name resolution hung exactly as described below. > > * I reinstalled kernel-image-2.0.36, and rebooted; name resolution > worked just fine. > > So it seems to me that the newer kernel is doing something wrong. If > anyone would like me to perform some experiments, so as to isolate the > problem, I'd be happy to do them; just tell me what you need done. > Unfortunately, I know nothing about how the net card driver works, so > I don't know how to investigate this on my own. > > Here's the plea that I sent last month: > > Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my system? At first I assumed it > was a bug in the resolver library, and opened a bug against libc6 in > Debian potato (http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/45/45912.html); but the > Debian libc6 maintainer is sure that my system is merely > misconfigured. > > Here's the problem: > > When I type `ping blarg.net' at a shell, `ping' hangs. I expect it to > display > > PING blarg.net (206.124.128.1): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 206.124.128.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=62 time=25.7 ms > ... > > Other name resolution also fails. For example, Netscape hangs when > trying to visit web pages on machines other than mine. > > On the other hand, if I type `ping 206.124.128.1', that works fine. > So I know that IP and the network card aren't entirely broken. > > I've never sat around and waited to see if `ping' eventually gets > unstuck; I've always given up and hit control-C after no more than > perhaps a minute. > > I'm using potato (that is, the still-unreleased version of Debian > GNU/Linux), which I installed by first installing slink (i.e., Debian > 2.1) from an official CD-ROM, and then using `apt-get dist-upgrade' > from > > http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main > > I did that update around 24 September. > > Here is some information about the broken system: > > Package: netbase > Version: 3.16-2 > > Package: kernel-image-2.2.9 > Version: 2.2.9-2 > > My network card driver is 3c59x: > > Sep 24 07:21:13 potato kernel: 3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker > http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html > Sep 24 07:21:13 potato kernel: eth0: 3Com 3Com Boomerang (unknown > version) at 0xb800, 00:50:04:1b:f6:df, IRQ 11 > Sep 24 07:21:13 potato kernel: 8K byte-wide RAM 5:3 Rx:Tx split, > autoselect/Autonegotiate interface. > Sep 24 07:21:13 potato kernel: MII transceiver found at address 24, > status 182d. > Sep 24 07:21:13 potato kernel: Enabling bus-master transmits and > whole-frame receives. > > This problem didn't always happen, although I don't remember exactly > when it started. I know for certain that it didn't happen immediately > after I installed slink, nor did it happen immediately after I > upgraded to potato the first time. > > I've also seen this problem on a different installation of slink (on > the same machine with the same hardware), but that problem > mysteriously went away. I now have both slink and potato on this > machine, and slink works flawlessly. Only potato has this > name-resolution problem. > > I haven't noticed any error messages -- certainly none at the shell on > which I ran `ping', and none in /var/log. > > I connect to the Internet via DSL, using a Cisco 675 router, which is > a little grey box that sits on the floor (the phone company gave it to > me when I signed up for DSL). I have a phone cord that connects the > router and my phone jack; I have an Ethernet cable that connects the > router and my network card. > > The router is quite configurable, and perhaps its configuration is > relevant: > > * I've got it set to act as a DHCP server, although since I don't know > how to make Debian use DHCP, I've told Debian to use a static IP > address. Since I only have one computer, there is no risk of having > two IP addresses conflict. > > * It's doing something called `network address translation', which, as > I understand it, means that my machine "appears" to the outside > world to have a different IP address than what the machine thinks. > That is (as you can see below in my network configuration files), my > machine thinks its IP address is 10.0.0.2, but the outside world > uses 206.124.128.30 (that address might change from time to time, > because the router might be a DHCP client of my ISP). Also, if I > were to connect other machines to the router (with an Ethernet hub), > they would get IP addresses like 10.0.0.3, 10.0.0.4, etc.; but they > would *all* appear to the outside world as 206.124.128.30. It would > appear that this would cause total confusion, but it doesn't; > somehow this `network address translation' keeps things from getting > confused. I don't understand how it does this, but it seems to work > OK. (The place I work used to have a similar setup; they had five > machines connected to the Internet, all "sharing" an outside IP > address; the machines all worked fine.) The one tradeoff that I > know of is that nobody in the outside world can connect to any > servers that I run, because the network address translation > apparantly futzes with port numbers. For example, my SMTP server > listens on port 25, but someone who tries to connect to that port > using my outside IP address 206.124.128.30 won't be able to. > Presumably, if they could guess the port to which the router has > "mapped" port 25, they could connect to that port. > > There may be some more information about the configuration of this > box that is relevant. Please feel free to ask me about it, if you > think it would help. > > Perhaps some of the following network configuration files are > relevant: > > /etc/resolv.conf: > nameserver 206.124.128.1 > nameserver 206.124.128.3 > > /etc/hosts: > 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback > 10.0.0.1 cisco-router > 10.0.0.2 potato > > /etc/init.d/network: > #! /bin/sh > ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 > route add -net 127.0.0.0 > IPADDR=10.0.0.2 > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > NETWORK=10.0.0.0 > BROADCAST=10.0.0.255 > GATEWAY=10.0.0.1 > ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST} > route add -net ${NETWORK} > [ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1 > > Note that those three files are almost-exact copies of the same files > on my slink system, which as I said works fine. The only differences > are > --- /slink/etc/resolv.conf Sun Sep 12 04:06:13 1999 > +++ /potato/etc/resolv.conf Mon Sep 20 22:00:49 1999 > @@ -1,3 +1,2 @@ > -search hanchrow.org > nameserver 206.124.128.1 > nameserver 206.124.128.3 > > (I don't know what that `search' line is doing on my slink system; I > assume that it got put there when I installed the system) > > --- /slink/etc/hosts Sun Sep 12 12:49:07 1999 > +++ /potato/etc/hosts Tue Sep 21 22:29:44 1999 > @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ > 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback > 10.0.0.1 cisco-router > - 10.0.0.2 snowball > \ No newline at end of file > + 10.0.0.2 potato > + > > Now, here's the kicker: the problem goes away if I run `tcpdump': I do > > tcpdump & > ping blarg.net > > and `ping' responds correctly. I can then kill `tcpdump', and until > the next time I boot, the network works fine. It's as if `tcpdump' > changed something, and that change allows name resolution to work. > > So that's the deal. Any ideas why my system is behaving this way, and > what I can do about it? > > Thanks > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen