* Michael Stenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 09:32:34AM +1000, Doug Young wrote:
>> Will  someone PLEASE get the message that the present
>> format of MAN, HOWTO, and other stuff is NOT intelligible
>> to the majority of newbies, and that is why there are so many
>> postings on stuff regarded as trivial by experts !!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed, but we can help them finding the *good*, easy to understand
documentation. And we can also tell them how to ask for help in a way
that makes helping easy.

> seems the list is still interested.  I suggest that those who would
> like to be involved in this more permanently let me know, and I'll
> start constructing a "mini-list" that we can fall back to when the
> interest dies down on debian-user.

Just Cc:´ing to the addresses would be enough, I think. Please include
me in this list.

> What do you think about:

> a) using html  (this would help us -- we'd just mirror each other)

We still need an ASCII document that tells newbies about lynx or
Netscape in that case, IMO.

> b) having a table of contents and index ( <- index might be hard )
--------------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not too much if the base is SGML or (La)TeX.

> c) trying to keep the documentation very short (ideally a page or
>        less) and step by step, with links to more complete info.

This "very short documenation" should be in plain ASCII, IMO. It
should include links, of course, whereever they may lead.

I also think that the bigger newbie documentation you seem to have in
mind (judging from the TOC and index reference) is already written,
manyfold. We just need a "jump-station" to the best of them, put in a
prominent place (/etc/motd was my suggestion for a jump-station to
the jump-station).

Cheers,
  Colin

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Colin Marquardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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