You going to hear that most of the things you've suggested are being address or 'in the works.' The reason for this is that Debian & Linux are from the Unix background.
1) Supported by volunteers. The volunteers are usually building stuff they find useful and donate it back to the public. 2) These volunteers have been in a highly technical environment. You'll see solutions there first. Unix was used for 'big' machines. Now that it is being used more on a desktop level, you'll see more 'hold your hand' or 'management' type software come available. First priority is a solid secure machine. Many Linux boxes are servers or otherwise publicly available machines. Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > 1. Easy of use and installation (though now i mind less after 2 weeks of > getting grips labour) We're addressing this. Look at www.debian.org and search on 'apt' > 2. D O C U M E N T A T I O N ( why all these cryptic files and no real > database ??? HTML yes?) > When the documentation is lacking, you can get help from the userbase and/or developers. This isn't the case w/ M$. Yes, coders probably don't make the best tech writers. You might consider helping out in this area. > Installing and removing LOOKS easy but there's very little REAL > version/dependency checking done. In my experiance Debian is far superior to anything Micro$oft has put out. We had version checking long before they did. On any Win32 platform, try installing ODBC 16-bit and 32-bit then install Access 2.0 and 7.0(97) now add drivers for Oracle & Sybase (Why? try supporting several platforms as a dev in M$-land.) Try installing two different versions of VB on that system. > Geez, sometimes i start thinking of winDOWs as a better platform just > because one can ****up a system > doing simple installation procedures. HELP i'm no Sure, I've seen many people loose stuff installing on a M$ machine too. If you really want help, ask the question. If all you want to do is rant, you'll probably get very few responses. We didn't force you to use this OS. (We're not getting compensated for helping either). BTW, don't even think about mentioning upgrades from Win95 to Win98. I've known more people who 'Get to start with a clean system' when the tried to 'upgrade' than have success. > hacker/coder/programmer/techie just an experienced user > of operating systems doswinlix and NOT even considering to become one. > REALLY leave the coding to the > guys/girls who know what they're doing i think to myself. But all i see > is NEW kernel releases and NOT > new USER friendly add-ons such as installation, configuration, manual > database, manuals with more indepth > information on exactly what files to alter etc . . . > If you've spent more than a month reading the debian-devel or debian-user, I think you'd see more anticipation regarding apt and other such projects than kernal releases. > To set the record straight, I REALLY LIKE DEBIAN LINUX and the other > LINUX Distributions, i just think > it's disturbing to 'allready' see flaws in development. My thoughts on > this are 'of course' not complete or even > accurate but should indicate, again the need for a Standard User > Friendly environment to people leaving the > winDOWs platform or choosing to widen their horizon. > It is also in the works. Actually, it is compatibility amongst the Linux community. This will probably drag the Commercial UNIX implementations along with it. (The bin compatible libc6 did.) Debian is already able to install RedHat packages(RPMs) and vice versa. > Finally, why not deliver a good WORDprocessor on the distribution / > contribution CDR ? > It's considered a Major lack in any distribution. > Interesting, M$, MacOS, OS/2(is it really major) don't seem to have one included in the OS. If you want one, you've got to pay for it. Now if you want a text editor, Debian comes with several. Infact, we have spelling checkers for several languages. Do they? If you want suite software, you have a choice of at least three for Linux. Agian, if you have a _real_ question, do a little searching, ask the list (providing information of where you're at in the process). -- What do you want to spend today? Debian GNU/Linux (Free for an UNLIMITED time) http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html Greg Vence KH2EA/4