On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 02:03, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:22:17 +1200, Simon Kitching
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm pretty sure this is not necessary, at least for basic functionality,
> > with recent systems. Maybe someone read Jon's notes and built it in ;-).
> > 
> > I'm using a 256MByte USB memory stick fine, with a debian testing system
> > running kernel-2.4, and also with a debian testing system running
> > kernel-2.6. Yes, the USB drive appears as a SCSI device, but that all
> > seems to work out-of-the-box for me.
> 
> Are you using a pre-built debian kernel or a custom one? According to 
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.23-2002-05-21/bf2.4/kernel-config;
> the bf24 stock kernel has the relevant SCSI modules built-in. This may
> be the case for
> all the debian stock kernels.

I'm using the prebuilt debian kernel-image packages (2.4 and 2.6) from
the standard debian mirrors. Just did "apt-get install
kernel-image-xxx". 

And yes all the necessary SCSI stuff is just there. Running 
  modprobe -l | grep scsi
reports heaps of stuff.

> 
> > Now I *would* like to see an icon pop up on the desktop when the USB
> > device gets inserted. Maybe the hotplug stuff is related to that? I can
> > live without it, though...
> 
> Me too - or similar such things. Someone said in another thread that
> `udev' works
> towards these goals, but I haven't investigated it.

I had a memory of seeing an article about "project utopia", maybe on
lwn.net, so I did some googling and found it:

<quote>
Today, Project Utopia is an umbrella project including multiple other
open source components such as udev, hotplug, HAL, the kernel, D-BUS,
and GNOME. It's is managed using use cases, as opposed to functional and
technical specifications
</quote>

See:
 http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2004/view/e_sess/5195




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