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> On 16 Aug 2019, at 19:16, Elmar Stellnberger <estel...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> I have only seen intelligence visiting my home when I left an offline
>>>> computer around with HDD.
>>>
>>> If you feel safe answering: what country was this in? Your name and time
>>> zone suggest Germany/Austria/Switzerland, which I wouldn't have thought of
>>> as the kind of places that do this.
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>> With the amendment of the StPO 2017, the German Bundestag created a legal
>> basis for the widespread use of these so-called Statetrojans[¹]
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>> More states have laws that let they spy citizen with trojans. This cause our
>> device/software to be less secure and the same backdoor can be used also by
>> others. Also when data is collected is also accessible by people who work
>> directly/indirectly and some of these can use that data (sell/send to
>> others/read for himself/...)
>>
> Yes, I´d believe it to be a problem when the state buys zero days exploits
> which are then kept secret so that they can continue to be exploited. In the
> worst case people are paid for moving malicious bugs in and by selling them
> later on. The state should act responsible and contend to improve the
> security of our systems instead of undermining them. If it is true what I
> have heard then intelligence services in Germany are still using typewriters.
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