On Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:00:41 AM Volker Birk wrote: > On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 02:17:05PM -0800, Leslie S Satenstein wrote: > > I am a casual Debian user and a person who has 50 years in IT. My > > first comment is that the direction that other Linux distributions are > > taking is not the system V direction. I am not a Linux Internals > > person, but there are many who are. The consensus is that systemd is > > better and the right approach for now and the future. I realize that > > the author of this email to which I am responding is upset. But, what > > should be done? Do a fork of Debian and that fork remains with Sys V? > > There will be a split in Debian community for this decision for sure. > The split goes through Linux community in total. >
Doesn't make the decision to drop SysV Init, a system even its own maintainer says is a pile of garbage, in favor of systemd, any less technically sound. > I for myself will switch to DragonFly BSD if possible. The problem is, > that Linux today has the drivers. And because the political program of > the systemd guys to conquer the whole Linux world is successful, > everyone will be dependent on their APIs there in near future. > Oh please, grow up. I got bored with the "Lennart/Red Hat/systemd devs are trying to conquer Linux" line years ago when systemd first showed up. It was a laughable pile of crap then and it still is now. I applaud them for at least attempting to fix the veritable clusterfuckk that is the Linux system userspace. Of course, the problem with a lot of Linux users is that any change, whether its good or not, is the apocalypse. Look at how people react whenever people use the term "wayland." > That makes some hope for the BSD world again. The good thing about Free > Software is the alternatives. > Indeed. Though I think you vastly overestimate how many people even think this is a bad change. A highly vocal minority at worst. Have fun using BSD, which continues to have a dwindling user base, for purely political reasons because you actually buy into conspiracy theories about what Lennart Poettering does in his free time. > Yours, > VB. Conrad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-security-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1952739.WXhSeDn9z5@twilight