On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire <j...@debian.org> wrote:
> The Release Team calls for the submission of release goals for the Jessie
> cycle.
>
> Release goals are areas of functionality which developers would like to see
> as an aim for the next release. They will not hold up the release, but
> allow the bugs opened for that goal to be of severity 'important'.
>
> Goals which were accepted for the Wheezy cycle, but did not reach
> completion, can be carried over for Jessie. However, we require
> re-submission of those goals (and any that have been discussed up until now
> - we are starting with a clean slate) to ensure that they are still
> realistic and have active developers working on them. We will in principle
> accept carried-over goals which still meet the basic criteria.
>
> As a reminder, release goals require at least one advocate, should affect
> more than one set of packages (i.e. not just a transition), and should be
> generally consensual. The advocate(s) should take responsibility for
> tracking the goal status and ensuring it is completed in a timely manner.
> Goals should be "specific, measurable, attainable, realistic and timely".
>
> To propose a goal, you should create a page on the wiki [WIKI] with a short
> goal description, details of the advocate(s) and how the goal will be
> achieved. The multi-arch goal [MA-GOAL] from Wheezy is a good example. You
> should submit a copy of this information to the mailing list [ML] with a
> suitable subject line (we suggest "Proposed release goal: ${shortdesc}").
>
> The deadline for goal submission is midnight on 30th September 2013. There
> will be a short period after this date for objections. Assuming all is
> well, we will accept reasonable goals and ask advocates to choose a BTS
> usertag for tracking their goal.
>
> [WIKI] https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals
> [MA-GOAL] https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/MultiArch
> [ML] debian-release@lists.debian.orgJonathan, I am considering putting forth a proposal to make MariaDB the default mysql binary provider for Jesse. However there are a number of unresolved issues, that might prevent consensus at this time: 1) Whether of not we should support installing both maridb and mysql on the same system at the same time. (I believe the typical use case would call for one or the other but not both, and making them alternatives would address most users' needs, but the project has not reached this consensus.) 2) No developers have picked up the existing MariaDB packages that are awaiting review. (No MariaDB in unstable yet) 3) There is an open question if allowing the same binary names is allowed. (Other distros are using the same binary names, and the packages that the MariaDB foundation ships use "mysql" in the binary names). 4) There is an open question as to whether or not we can easily support a generic "mysql" service dependency for packages that current depend on mysql. An additional complication, is that I am personally not skilled in packaging, and am a "non-uploading" DD, so I'm not sure if it would be appropriate for me to advocate such a change, especially considering I am not in a position to help implement the change. My feeling that as time passes, and with more and more distros make the decision to replace mysql with mariadb as the default provider of mysql binaries, (Fedora, RHEL, OpenSuSE, Arch Linux so far) it will become clear that doing this is the correct path. I do believe this will happen, and it will become clear that MariaDB, is the "winning fork" well before Jesse ships. (The formation of the MariaDB foundation added to my confidence that this is the highly likely outcome.) My question is, if this isn't submitted as a release goal for Jesse by Sept 30th, will there be an opportunity prior to Jesse's release to reconsider making this change? Any guidance, would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian P.S. - This is likely further complicated by the fact that Debian is by and large a Postgresql "shop". > Thanks, > > Jonathan, for the release team > > -- > Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org > Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw > > 4096R: 0xD3524C51 / 0A55 B7C5 1223 3942 86EC 74C3 5394 479D D352 4C51 > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cacfairysxq0zpsd-awqffqvbpx_uwc6zpn2lad0djj0byl7...@mail.gmail.com
