At Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:26:28 +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > The Debian Project apologies for the unfortunate german quoting on the > command line interface. A solution is worked on, but unfortunately > hasn't made it into Sarge. As a workaround, switching to a UTF-8 based > locale will avoid the problem.
It's not good idea to enforce your opinion to the release announcements because even some German guys do not think it's acceptable currently. Regards, -- gotom > Rational: > The current quoting for german locales (german, swiss, austrian, ...) > tries to mimic proper german quoting (if UTF-8 is not present) and > fails miserably: > > Opening quotes: ,, > Closing quotes: " > > The opening quotes use 2 characters, are visually clearly different > from the closing quotes and users are confused because they read the > opening quotes as "two commas" and not "opening quote". Consider > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/scratch/incoming/MO/jan02$ /bin/mv -iv bla ~ > ,,bla" -> ,,/home/helge/bla" > ,,bla" entfernt > > Bugs have been filled on this issue quite a while back ([1], [2]). The > entire list [3] has expressed that the this behaviour is highly > undesirable. Essentially two solutions have been proposed, and > intensivly discussed[4]: > > A) Using the same quotes as in english, i.e., "" > B) Using inversed french quotes »« > > The vast majority (c.f. the thread starting at [4]) believes that either > solution is much better than the current state. However, the > glibc-maintainers expressed concernes about diverging from upstream > and pointed out that the bugs where minor and (implicitly) should be > fixed at some later stage. > > Hence the appology is needed, since -- given Debians history -- users of > stable employing a german locale will experience the (unambiguously > perceived as ugly) quotes for the years to come. > > The (almost) complete discussion is archived both in various threads > on debian-l10n-german and in the bug reports [1] and [2]. > > Please CC: me as I am not subscribed to debian-release. > > Greetings > > Helge > > > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=228486 > [2} http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=235759 > [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-german/2004/07/msg00172.html > [4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-german/2004/07/msg00149.html > -- > Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > gpg signed mail preferred gpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm > Help keep free software "libre": http://www.freepatents.org/ > [2 <application/pgp-signature (7bit)>] >
