Still no reply I guess...

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-- Grant Bowman                                <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Grant Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040314 22:02]:
> * Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040314 16:56]:
> > * Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-11 13:34]:
> > > Is Zephaniah E. Hull ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is MIA?
> > > his last upload is nearly one year ago.
> > > 
> > > He maintains GPM which is an important piece of software. The sid
> > > version is the same as the woody version and has some problematic bugs.
> > > Also GPM upstream has changed and there have been several new upstream
> > > versions (latest is 1.20.1, I think).  
> > 
> > FWIW, I talked to Zephaniah in April 2003 about his packages, and he
> > agreed to give some away but wanted to keep others, including gpm.
> > gpm has traditionally been a mess, and I don't think there was a
> > maintainer upload since I talked to Zephaniah.  I think the best
> > approach would be to diff the new upstream with the package in Debian
> > and tell your insights to Zephaniah; I think he responds to mail.
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> I just rejoined the Debian-QA list.  I sent two and received two emails
> with Zephaniah between Feb 24 and Feb 28th.  I have not heard back from
> him regarding this attached email yet.  I am glad I was able to catch
> this conversation as it began asking the same questions I posed
> recently.
> 
> Technically I'm not an MIA DD, I'm retired, but same difference.  :-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> -- Grant Bowman                                <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
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> From: Grant Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: GPM Activity
> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 05:27:17 -0800
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> * Zephaniah E. Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040227 17:57]:
> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 05:34:36PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote:
> > > * Zephaniah E. Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040227 06:04]:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:00:41PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote:
> > > > > I don't mean to be rude, but are you still an active Debian 
> > > > > maintainer?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I am.
> > > 
> > > Wow, I'm very surprised to hear from you.  I was just today battling
> > > with GPM quite a bit today with my 2.6 kernel upgrade.  I'm sure you are
> > > aware that the package needs some serious attention, right?
> >
> > For 2.6 it needs to be thrown out and replaced with an exceedingly small
> > program that does not know much, except exps2 from /dev/input/mice with
> > some button remapping ability, and MAYBE can speak over the libs.
> 
> I've learned alot reading the 2.6 source code and can think of several
> alternative and viable ways to proceed beyond what you suggest, however
> I want to stay focused and not digress right now from the primary reason
> I contacted you.
>  
> > My life is quite a bit too, well, I'm not in a position to write it
> > right now.
> 
> Respectfully, after looking through the bugs [1] for GPM and the source
> package status [2] it seems clear to me that the package needs some
> active maintenance work to be completed.  I must assume from this
> exchange (both quality and quantity) that you don't have the time.
> 
> I also see from your other source packages [3] that source uploads from
> you have been rare.  I can't really speak to these other two packages,
> but it's something that I noticed.  While this doesn't actually mean
> anything, it confirms my assumption.
> 
> Why am I looking at this stuff?  I've recently installed imwheel,
> installed new kernels on more than one machine and of course been
> reconfiguring gpm.  I was asking (without reply) on #debian IRC "so
> given gpm's upstream tarball is from Oct 2001, 1.20+ availability
> http://bugs.debian.org/147462 (no reply from maintainer) and
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gpm.html is the maintainer missing?"
> 
> I was looking at policy [4] for guidance.  I'm glad you replied and are
> not officially MIA, however it's clear to me that you need some kind of
> help with the GPM source package.
> 
> Well, now what do I suggest?  Some of these are assumptions on my part,
> so just speak up if you disagree.
> 
> Solutions to the lack of an updated package of any kind include NMUs
> (short term), co-maintainers (long term, perhaps Sponsor/Advocate [5]),
> or not working with the GPM source package, handing it off via the WNPP
> [6] in one of several ways (below).  What would you like to do?
> 
> What options do we not want to pursue?  I would like to help, but I'm an
> MIA Debian Developer myself.  I need to remember my GPG key :-(.  So I
> can't upload NMUs though I might be able to create one.  It doesn't look
> like you want to put GPM up for "adoption" (RFA) in the WNPP or worse
> yet "orphan" (O) it.  I respect that.  I also respect that you are busy
> with real life now and may not have much time to devote to GPM.  Posting
> to debian-qa, debian-mentors and/or debian-devel makes no sense until
> you decide how you want to proceed.
> 
> Doing nothing is an option, I suppose.  However this does a disservice
> to all Debian users who rely on you to keep GPM updated.  The package
> right now effectively seems to be in limbo given your lack of replies to
> bugs that I can see.  Since everyone in Debian is a volunteer, I would
> like to work with you to come up with a plan of how you would like to
> proceed and assist in any way that I can.
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> 
> -- 
> -- Grant Bowman                                <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/gpm and 
> 
> [2] http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gpm.html
> 
> [3] http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> [4] 
> http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkging.en.html#s-mia-qa
> 
> [5] http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint#Sponsor
> 
> [6] http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
> 
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