I was indeed missing the background. As I understand, it all happened on -private, which I can't read. I actually learned about Norbert's demotion from DD to DM (which would leave him able to post on Planet) from a message on -publicity a few weeks ago, and I was completely unaware that he had been "banned from contributing to, and communicating with, Debian". In fact, I now read that in another message in this thread, Joerg has pointed out that this claim of yours isn't true, and as I read his words, Norbert was and is still a DM.
In the same message, Joerg also reported that a Planet Admin has confirmed Norbert's removal from Planet. This addresses the concern I was having. Well, in fact, I would have liked if Jonathan acknowledged that he shouldn't have acted on his own (Rule 6 actually doesn't state who is empowered to enforce removals, and I believe that the sensible interpretation is that it should be left to admins to decide what does or doesn't violate the community standards, letting any single DD do that is a recipe for flamewars), but he seems still convinced that he was right to do so. I disagree, but don't want to start an argument, so I'll just state it and leave it as that. Gerardo Il giorno mer 23 mar 2022 alle ore 14:46 Wouter Verhelst <[email protected]> ha scritto: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:35:18AM +0100, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: > > I actually believe it would be quite problematic if any single DD were > > allowed to take actions on another contributor based on their own > > judgment. That does include the DPL. §5.1.4 isn't applicable here, > > because there is someone who has responsibility. And the DPL should be > > more careful than others to respect the project's rules, not less. > > While this is accurate, I believe there is a difference here. > > Norbert was banned from Debian by the people who are delegated to make > that decision. He was banned from contributing to, and communicating > with, Debian. > > Personally, I believe that includes Planet Debian as well. While I agree > that it would be wrong to remove someone from the Planet Debian > configuration without that background, I think that given this > background, one could easily say that the non-removal of Norbert from > Planet Debian was a simple oversight, and that therefore removing him is > something that anyone can (and should!) do. > > -- > w@uter.{be,co.za} > wouter@{grep.be,fosdem.org,debian.org}
