Martina Ferrari dijo [Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 07:40:41PM -0300]: > (...) I am always sad and disheartened when this kind of threads erupt. And I can only imagine how this hurts people that cannot just sympathize with you, but suffer instead in their own bodies and lifes the discrimination. I am a believer of social change towards inclusiveness and acceptance, but it's a long and very gradual process.
> It looks like that transphobia is countered with slaps in the wrist, not > the universal rejection abhorrent views deserve. A single transphobe > makes a community a dangerous place for trans people. Trans people are > disproportionally affected by hate crimes: we are attacked, abused, and > killed every day. We can't take risks: this is not a stupid debate about > English Grammar[2] FFS, we are talking about peoples' lives and health! I agree that the message that started this thread is abhorent, and am happy our community didn't leave it unanswered. I am in [VAC], so am answering to lists quite seldom. Now, I do _not_ share your views that "transphobia is countered with slaps in the wrist". We have seen some important answers and sanctions against people acting in transphobic ways. Yes, we can only react to hurting messages _after_ the fact they were posted and cannot withdraw them by the mere nature of our system. But other than that, the community response to said mail (and some +1's) was quite strong and clear. And, as I said, I believe in change. But the change must go through many steps. Many of us have been in social settings and grew in family environments that eased our understanding and acceptance; some come from different backgrounds. I hope that even the most conservative people accept the deep humanity in the very hard decisions you and countless others have taken regarding your identities. Even if this talk does not convince the original poster, I hope it does slowly lead others to understand the processes. Of course, I agree that biting the bait and going to discuss grammar was not the best course of action. But this particular community is quite prone to end up discussing technicalities and minor points. Please forgive the chain of posts that led to grammar being brought to the table :-| Big, warm, sincere, loving hugs.
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