On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Sam Hartman wrote: >>>>>> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: > > Russ> There's another alternative to using the CTTE, and my > Russ> understanding is that this was generally the method used prior > Russ> to the existence of the CTTE, but I'm not sure it's really any > Russ> better. > > Russ> There are specific teams in Debian, generally delegates at > Russ> this point, that sit at choke points and can effectively make > Russ> decisions like this as part of the course of their duties. > Russ> For example, for the init system decision, I suspect a lot of > Russ> the pressure would have been on the d-i team to pick a > Russ> default. In the past, the usual victim for many of our > Russ> disputes has been ftp-master, since they can block archive > Russ> uploads or eject things from the archive. For others (and I > Russ> can recall some epic ones), it was the DAM. > > I remember back in my first years of Debian thinking that the TC wasn't > very effective. Stuff would get brought to them and not really > decided. > > Some folks (Ian's name springs to mind particularly but I don't recall > without going back to mail from the 2004-2006 time frame) really made an > effort to make sure that the TC responded to issues brought to it. The > TC became effective in that it gave answers if you brought issues to > them. > > Today, I think we have an opportunity to see if we can transform the TC > into a body that's good at helping people make these sorts of decisions > when there is conflict. I think it will be as much about mediation, > about asking people to work together, about pointing out to people they > are talking past each other, about asking people to reconsider their > decisions with certain criteria in mind than about overriding people.
Doesn't that require constitutional change? The current powers as written make the TC a decision-making body, not a mediation body. Best wishes, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CANTw=mm2pblhvxhpeyzq6k9y2wqv47fjaomuvbcehob_bda...@mail.gmail.com
