Still, I'm certain there are folks who appreciate the renewed development of miBoot as much as I do! It would be wonderful to be able to boot without having to do so via an OS 9 partition. Also -- and though I plan to install Debian on my system -- I'd like to be able to make an attempt at installing Xubuntu (or Ubuntu) once the miBoot solution (as planned) is available. Using BootX has a few drawbacks, some of which can be quite serious with certain systems.
Harold J. Johnson
On 8/19/06, Aurélien GÉRÔME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Harold,
First things first, could you stop Cc'ing the bug-report
which goes to debian-boot@lists.debian.org and just reply to
debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org? Thanks, you will do me a favor. :)
Because we are (actually, I am) not welcome in debian-installer. I have
virtually (because I believe they can still say something technically
interesting aside bothering politics) killfiled 3 people already in
Debian (2 are from debian-installer). :(
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 11:20:03AM -0700, Harold Johnson wrote:
> Does anyone know of an online tutorial, designed for laymen, on how to
> install and use miBoot? I'm tech-savvy but somewhat obtuse when it comes to
> compiling and all that, but I can get through the task (which is kind of
> fun, actually) once I have enough of a starting point. Unfortunately, I'm
> not finding that starting point.
Unfortunately, you will not find anything yet. We are still at a
reverse-engineering stage. More to come these weeks, I promise. :)
> Here are some of the resources I've gathered on installing/using miBoot.
> There's the debootloaders index pointed to previously in this thread:
>
> ftp://alioth.debian.org/pub/debootloaders/miboot/
>
> A HOWTO document there appears to be very thorough, for those who know a
> thing or two about compiling/building software. Again, I'd gladly follow
> this process, if I even knew where to begin. I've performed a "make" and a
> "./configure" and a "make install" before, but only by following
> step-by-step instructions for building relatively simple pieces of software.
It was quickly written by Piotr and it is not usable
as-is. It explains why it is not in SVN yet. You can read
the miBoot list archives to understand the situation better at
<http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debootloaders-miboot/>
and of course subscribe. I am working on Debian ready cross-compilers
packages for the miBoot package build-dependencies.
>
> I booted from the CD image I downloaded from the following location:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10972
>
> The image I selected was "miBoot image, Linux kernel 2.4.27 (incl. Debian
> Sarge installer)". This is able to boot my PowerBook G3 "Wallstreet 2", but
> only for a few seconds before the menu goes kaput. Examining the image more
> closely today, I've found that the CD is intended to boot NuBus PowerMacs;
> my PowerBook is an OldWorld, so it won't work for my machine.
Very interesting URL for Nubus, of course... I will look at it more
throughly...
> Then there's the floppy images (also mentioned previously on this list),
> which I'm now going to try:
>
> http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc-miboot/daily/powerpc/floppy/
>
> Still, I have to figure out how to make the physical floppies out of these
> images. That I'm sure I can figure out, but it's unclear to me whether they
> are intended to work for my particular setup (an OldWorld PowerBook G3
> "Wallstreet").
What you seek, I think, is how to produce those floppy images. If it is
the case, the code you seek is in the debian-installer SVN repository:
<http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/d-i/>. The one the d-i folks do not want
me to touch, even if I am part of the new miBoot developers team... It
is their win and my loss, I cannot help it. ;)
> Again, my purpose in this message is to inquire about some generally
> easy-to-follow documentation any of you may know of regarding how to install
> and use miBoot, so that I may then install and use Debian on my OldWorld
> PowerBook. I've searched the web using a variety of search engines, and
> though there is certainly some information out there, much of the resources
> I've stumbled onto are difficult for the non-programmer to understand. I
> would be willing to compose a layman's version of the steps required to get
> miBoot going, but I need to first understand how to install and use it
> myself.
I understand perfectly what you want as it is our purpose, but it is
not possible for now. :)
Thanks for your support, it is really appreciated.
Cheers,
--
.''`. Aurélien GÉRÔME
: :' :
`. `'` Free Software Developer
`- Unix Sys & Net Admin
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