On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:19:23 +0200 (CEST) Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anybody out there know, whether there is a single human being > among the Debian folks who is aware of the fact that a font system > like the one on Debian is not only a bad joke but, if I see this > correctly, simply gaga? That this font system is definitely unusable? > And I'd bet it's not only unusable for non-X-coders but even for the > X-developers themselves. Yes, it's terrible. I hope that Xouvert dumps everything but truetype and atm support and moves towards the fontconfig approach. > My guess is this mess is a Debian-specific one, i.e. one that was > caused by the way the Debian folks organize the fonts on Debian, and > not one which is caused by the X-developers. Am I right? Nope. I've found the same mess on several different distros. It's an X issue AFAICT. > Situations like that is why I say that Debian-Linux does not work for > people with a girl-friend or a family, or for folks who need to get a > job done on a computer in a reasonable amount of time. Or for folks > who simply like watching shadows on the wall (John Lennon :) or the > stars above them. Hang on a minute. Everyone I know who uses Debian is either married or at least has a girlfriend. My fiancee is an avid user of Debian yet she uses XP at work, she _chooses_ to use Debian. She is not a sysadmin, she just wants thing to work. And they do (well, the starburst logo script-fu crashes the gimp on ppc, but ari pollak has that under control :). > I'd guess it's a system for folks not knowing what to do with their > lives if they had a working OS on their computer. If anything, it's a system for people who want to do something different with their computer. I think if anything, we need to either bring testing up to date, or maintain a 'desktop' version with the most current stable desktops. > I'm talking of Debian-Linux because even on a 2 or 3 year old > i386 RedHat 6.2 the font situation, IIRC, by far was not that ugly as > it is here on Debian. Rubbish, I remember trying to get truetype fonts working on a 6.2. Take another look at fontconfig. installing fonts means either putting them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ if you want to share them across all users, or ~/.fonts if you alone want to use them. Then run fc-cache. The rest is cruft and I imagine it will be removed soon. -- njh
