On 21 Aug 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 16:51, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> >
> > After installing msttcorefonts, cabextract and x-ttcidfont-conf yesterday,
> > the X server is crashing after running xfontsel.
> >
> > And it seems it doesn't matter whether I choose "xtt" or "freetype" when
> > configuring x-ttcidfont-conf: the X server is either crashing in both
> > cases. Or, if the server does not crash, xfontsel crashes, rendering it
> > unusable.
>
> Well, xfontsel crashing is better than the X server crashing, isn't it?
> :)

If you want to tell me by that, that in the meantime - after my first 2 or
3 months with a Debian Linux system - that I should have become used to a
system where a lot of things don't work: Yes, I'm on the brink of getting
used to it. But it doesn't help. :)


>
> If the other hints don't help, you could try using a font server instead
> of an X server TT font renderer module.

Ooops, Thanks for the hint :) ...
I already have xfs running. Or isn't this the font server you were writing
about ...?

Here's the (a ?) config file:
/etc/X11/fs/config (reformatted for the post here):

##########################################################
# font server configuration file
# $Xorg: config.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:19 cpqbld Exp $

# allow a maximum of 10 clients to connect to this font server
client-limit = 10
# when a font server reaches its limit, start up a new one
clone-self = on
# log messages to /var/log/xfs.log (if syslog is not used)
error-file = /var/log/xfs.log
# log errors using syslog
use-syslog = on
# turn off TCP port listening (Unix domain connections are still permitted)
no-listen = tcp
# paths to search for fonts
catalogue = /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID/
# in decipoints
default-point-size = 120
# x1,y1,x2,y2,...
default-resolutions = 100,100,75,75

# font cache control, specified in kB
cache-hi-mark = 2048
cache-low-mark = 1433
cache-balance = 70
#########################################################

The basic problem I have here, is that on Debian I have a whole bunch (or
perhaps better: a wonderful mess) of different font config files:

XF86Config-4,
XftConfig,
in /etc/fonts/ fonts.conf and local.conf,
in /etc/X11/fs/ config and xfs.options,
the config files for defoma,
my personal font config in .xinitrc

I simply stop here; but I wouldn't be astonished to find a dozen more if I
went on trying to find some.

Does anybody out there know, whether there is a single human being among
the Debian folks who is aware of the fact that a font system like the one
on Debian is not only a bad joke but, if I see this correctly, simply
gaga? That this font system is definitely unusable? And I'd bet it's not
only unusable for non-X-coders but even for the X-developers themselves.

My guess is this mess is a Debian-specific one, i.e. one that was
caused by the way the Debian folks organize the fonts on Debian, and not
one which is caused by the X-developers. Am I right?

Situations like that is why I say that Debian-Linux does not work for
people with a girl-friend or a family, or for folks who need to get a job
done on a computer in a reasonable amount of time. Or for folks who simply
like watching shadows on the wall (John Lennon :) or the stars above them.

I'd guess it's a system for folks not knowing what to do with their lives
if they had a working OS on their computer.

Is there some hope that this situation will change on Debian?
Or do Debian folks like kissing their screens instead of their wifes or
girl-friends ... ?

I'm talking of Debian-Linux because even on a 2 or 3 year old
i386 RedHat 6.2 the font situation, IIRC, by far was not that ugly as
it is here on Debian.

Best Regards,
Wolfgang
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