On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:32PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The difficulty with the 7200, and maybe the 7300, is that OpenFirmware > > > doesn't drive the screen, so if you want to muck around in there, > > > you have to hook up a tty to the modem port. > > > > Thereis lies a whole nother bunch of fun. I have a Mac modem cable, came > > with a box of junk, and I have a PC null-modem cable. The two connect, > > and with Linux running at both ends I can type back and forth at myself > > until I become bored with it. > > > > However, O-F talks the the peecee, but doesn't listen. > > > > Quik also talks to the peecee and doesn't listen. > > Do you hae the terminal software set for 38400 baud? That's OF's
I do. If I hadn't, the output would be garbled too. > native rate AFAIK. Also, check that the NVRAM output-device is also > set to ttya (usually both input-device and output-device default to > that). It is. I'm sure you mean input-device (the output works), and that is too. > > > Since I wrote previously, I've booted the Woody bootfloppies and had a > > fiddle with nvsetenv, and I set the system to boot from the internal > > disk. Nothing happened that I could see, but I happened to be wired up > > with minicom listening at the peecee and here's what it said: > > RESETing to change Configuration! > > no bootable HFS partition > > Have you actually run the Make Hard Disk Bootable menu item? That > writes a boot block on the disk (partition '0') which starts quik. If > you're getting the boot: prompt, then that's done properly. If this > message is coming from quik, re-check your quik.conf to be sure you've > properly specified a root partition. But it doesn't sound like a quik > message, because quik would be looking for ext2, not hfs. This is my last MacOS disk. It has no Linux on it. I suspect that if I run the Make Hard Disk Bootable menu item that will be the end of MacOS. I think I'll initialise this disk and see what happens. > > > > > > > > Can I make a bootable CD for them without preserving macos? > > > > > > Bootable CDs are not possible using only free software. We don't have > > > bootable CDs in the distribution for OldWorlds. OTOH, a CD with the > > > MacOS boot drivers is bootable no matter what remains on the hard > > > disk. (But, if there are no HFS partitions, it wouldn't be able to do > > > much anyway.) > > > > So long as it's legal, I don't care how I create bootable CDs. Is there > > something I should read? > > I believe I read something about it in the mkisofs or cdrecord > documentation. You copy the code from an existing bootable MacOS CD, > IIRC. Legality is not my area. I don't have any MacOS CDs. The README.hfs_boot file describes making a bootable CD by filching code from a MacOS CD. As one can download some release(s) of MacOS free of charge from Apple (but I've lost the link) I presume there's no licensing issue. However, the document _is_ three years old. It looks like Darwin may boot: it says, "... the installer cannot create a bootable partition on OldWorld machines." NetBSD is supposed to boot, but I have the CD and can't boot it. Neither does it appear to try to boot off the LAN when I hold done "n" as described at http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/network/netboot/intro.macppc.html > > > How do I tell whether a disk has firmware I should keep? > > You wouldn't be erasing firmware, just the Apple disk driver partitions. > If you won't have MacOS, you won't need them at all. Sounds good enough. I seems I can probably install to it, so I'll do a basic install so I can more-easily play with other options. -- Cheers John Summerfield Please, no off-list mail at all at all. This address accepts mail only from Debian addresses.
