* Matthias Klose <d...@debian.org> [110529 20:03]:
> without knowing how the compiler or the linker were called.  Maybe it is
> convenient for a package maintainer watching the build scrolling by (some of
> these are even colorized), but lacking this kind of information in the first
> place seems to be the wrong thing.

I think it is also a good thing to propose upstreams to not do this
madness by default. In many support channels the first thing you often
have to ask it to get a proper build log. Defaults of build systems
should be tailored towards users, not towards developers.

> The majority of quiet build logs comes from cmake based systems and (newer)

I think cmake has the additional problem that it misses a proper middle
ground, without verbosity it is says not nearly enough, with verbosity
it gives quite more output than a classic automake like build system.

        Bernhard R. Link


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