On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli <z...@debian.org> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 01:14:03PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: >> I fail to see the difference between a BDF-to-PCF converter and a C compiler >> that will discard comments from the C source files. Yet we do not generally >> ship C source code in binary packages. > > This is not the right analogy. A C source file by itself cannot be run > without having been compiled while, AFAICT from the given description, > a BDF "source" file can be. > > A question I have and that hasn't been addressed by the original > request is: what is the advantage to have BDF files in binary > packages? Comments and copyright notices don't look like a real > advantage to me.
The only advantage is in preserving all information if (and only if) the original font is in BDF format. It seemed harmless to me if the savings in size was nonexistent, with both BDF and PCF files gzipped. Steve Langasek brought up something I hadn't considered, that PCF's table-based format could be more efficient in general than alternative font formats. A BDF font does have to be read serially from beginning to end; there are no handy table offsets to jump from one glyph to the next. That might not be an issue with the speed of modern computers, especially if the BDF font in question only has on the order of 256 characters. If it is sufficient to have copyright information in the Debian copyright file, then so be it. I was also concerned about other things that might be dropped. A BDF file can contain any number of properties describing the font in the header, for example CAP_HEIGHT and X_HEIGHT. Maybe there's no harm in losing this information through format conversion. I don't know what all the implications are. The list of BDF properties isn't fixed, so bdftopcf is likely to discard some of such information during conversion. The bdftopcf utility calls a function in bdfread.c to mainly load glyph bitmaps, then calls another function to write them out as a PCF file. The source code that reads a BDF font contains this confidence-inspiring comment: /* 5/31/89 (ef) -- hack, hack, hack. what *am* I supposed to do with */ /* 0 width characters? */ I ran into this trying to track down why Unicode combining marks weren't overlapping preceding characters properly in BDF or PCF versions of the unifont package; I only got the TrueType version working. (Disclaimer: I'm not at home now, and not anywhere near my Debian system; the above code is something I had on a laptop where I worked on getting combining marks working.) So because Debian GNU/Linux properly renders uncompressed BDF fonts if they are placed in the font directory, I thought I'd ask if it could make sense to support .bdf.gz font files -- both technically and as Debian Policy. I thought that this could simplify installing a BDF font (by avoiding conversion to PCF) as well as guaranteeing that all information the font designer included was preserved in the installed font. Paul Hardy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org