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Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 16 Aug 2000 10:04:19 +0000 >From aj@azure.humbug.org.au Wed Aug 16 05:04:19 2000 Return-path: <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> Received: from azure.humbug.org.au [::ffff:203.24.22.40] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 13P03U-00035I-00; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 05:04:17 -0500 Received: from aj by azure.humbug.org.au with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13P03E-0003lp-00; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:04:00 +1000 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:04:00 +1000 From: Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: [PROPOSED 2000/08/16] Free pkgs depending on non-US should go into non-US/{main,contrib} Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 10:25:28AM +0200 Organisation: Lacking X-PGP: http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/aj_key.asc Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 10:25:28AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Mike Markley wrote: > > A dependency on non-us will also land a package in contrib. > I think there was a proposal to change that, so that packages which depend > on packages in non-US/main remain in non-US/main. Actually, there doesn't seem to be such a proposal; there just seems to be your (accepted) proposal to make both main and non-US/main part of the Debian distribution. So, let's fix that. The principle: packages that are DFSG-free, depend on packages in non-US/main, but are otherwise candidates for main should go into non-US/main also. That way they're still a part of the official distribution, but they don't come up as uninstallables for the poor deprived US folks. Here's a sample wording change. It incorporates the accepted change from #62946. It's not entirely clear where contrib packages that don't include crypto, but Depend: on software that does (from non-US/*) would go in the following, probably. --- policy.text.orig Wed Aug 16 19:29:04 2000 +++ policy.text Wed Aug 16 20:00:31 2000 @@ -196,9 +196,11 @@ but not every package we want to make accessible is _free_ in our sense (see Debian Free Software Guidelines, below), or may be imported/exported without restrictions. Thus, the archive is split - into the sections _main_, _non-us_, _non-free_, and _contrib_. + into the sections _main_, _non-US/main_, _contrib_, _non-US/contrib_, + _non-free_, and _non-US/non-free_. - The _main_ section forms the _Debian GNU/Linux distribution_. + The _main_ and _non-US/main_ sections form the _Debian GNU/Linux + distribution_. Packages in the other sections are not considered as part of the Debian distribution, though we support their use, and we provide @@ -282,46 +284,54 @@ The ``GPL,'' ``BSD,'' and ``Artistic'' licenses are examples of licenses that we consider _free_. -2.1.2. The main section ------------------------ +2.1.2. The main and non-US/main sections +---------------------------------------- - Every package in "main" must comply with the DFSG (Debian Free - Software Guidelines). + Every package in "main" and "non-US/main" must comply with the DFSG + (Debian Free Software Guidelines). In addition, the packages in "main" * must not require a package outside of "main" for compilation or execution (thus, the package may not declare a "Depends" or - "Recommends" relationship on a non-main package), + "Recommends", or "Build-Depends" relationship on a non-main + package), * must not be so buggy that we refuse to support them, * must meet all policy requirements presented in this manual. + + Similarly, the packages in "non-US/main" + * must not require a package outside of "main" or "non-US/main" + for compilation or execution, + * must not be so buggy that we refuse to support them, + * must meet all policy requirements presented in this manual. -2.1.3. The contrib section --------------------------- +2.1.3. The contrib and non-US/contrib sections +---------------------------------------------- - Every package in "contrib" must comply with the DFSG. + Every package in "contrib" and "non-US/contrib" must comply with + the DFSG. - Examples of packages which would be included in "contrib" are - * free packages which require "contrib", "non-free", or "non-US" + Examples of packages which would be included in "contrib" or + "non-US/contrib" are + * free packages which require "contrib" or "non-free" packages or packages which are not in our archive at all for compilation or execution, * wrapper packages or other sorts of free accessories for non-free programs, -2.1.4. The non-free section ---------------------------- +2.1.4. The non-free and non-US/non-free sections +------------------------------------------------ - `Non-free' contains packages which are not compliant with the DFSG or - which are encumbered by patents or other legal issues that make their - distribution problematic. + Packages must be placed in "non-free" or "non-US/non-free" if they + are not compliant with the DFSG or are encumbered by patents or + other legal issues that make their distribution problematic. - All packages in `non-free' must be electronically distributable across - international borders. - -2.1.5. The non-us server ------------------------- +2.1.5. The non-US sections +-------------------------- Some programs with cryptographic program code must be stored on the - "non-us" server because of export restrictions of the U.S. + "non-US" server because of export restrictions of the U.S. Such + programs must be distributed in the appropriate non-US section, + either non-US/main, non-US/contrib or non-US/non-free. This applies only to packages which contain cryptographic code. A package containing a program with an interface to a cryptographic Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``We reject: kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and working code.'' -- Dave Clark --------------------------------------- Received: (at 69229-close) by bugs.debian.org; 17 Jan 2001 19:08:06 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 17 13:08:06 2001 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from auric.debian.org [206.246.226.45] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 14IxwD-0006zH-00; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:08:05 -0600 Received: from troup by auric.debian.org with local (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 14IxsG-0002vs-00; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:04:00 -0500 From: Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#69229: fixed in debian-policy 3.2.1.1 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:04:00 -0500 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of debian-policy, which has been installed in the Debian FTP archive: policy.pdf.gz byhand mime-policy.text.gz byhand policy.text.gz byhand policy.html.tar.gz byhand libc6-migration.text byhand virtual-package-names-list.text byhand menu-policy.text.gz byhand debian-policy_3.2.1.1.dsc to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.2.1.1.dsc debian-policy_3.2.1.1.tar.gz to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.2.1.1.tar.gz debian-policy_3.2.1.1_all.deb to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.2.1.1_all.deb policy.ps.gz byhand A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> (supplier of updated debian-policy package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:31 -0600 Source: debian-policy Binary: debian-policy Architecture: source all Version: 3.2.1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> Changed-By: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: debian-policy - Debian Policy Manual and related documents Closes: 62943 69229 70442 70634 70643 72949 77404 77645 77650 78809 78822 82458 Changes: debian-policy (3.2.1.1) unstable; urgency=low . * Don't compress version.ent in the doc directory (it gets bigger!) * Incorporate the packaging manual. The minimal change in version number i because I suspect that this version is going to be buggy. closes: Bug#62943, Bug#72949 * Fixed typo in menu-policy. closes: Bug#70442 * Fixed typo in policy manual closes: Bug#70634, Bug#70643 * Removed extraneous > from policy closes: Bug#77645 * Fixed two typos in upgrading checklist closes: Bug#78809, Bug#78822 * Fixed spelling of utility closes: Bug#82458 * [ACCEPTED 2000/09/08] Free pkgs depending on non-US should go into non-US/{main,contrib} closes: Bug#69229 * Added rsh-server and telnet server to the virtual packages list closes: Bug#77404 * Fixed outdated references to the FHS. closes: Bug#77650 Files: 5e51b233b09b1dab6eef8608b16e7abf 662 doc optional debian-policy_3.2.1.1.dsc 290cbd1d8a697c4af8426776a69ce466 485120 doc optional debian-policy_3.2.1.1.tar.gz 46e6bebf9b993d19d796345fd3a22bed 538370 doc optional debian-policy_3.2.1.1_all.deb 0fb54706f30605f70fbf0a4847481270 119434 byhand - policy.ps.gz 01744b911343ea926ac2a82816d26c94 206884 byhand - policy.pdf.gz 71ab93fd0848ad8e5aaabb2dbdba98b2 65474 byhand - policy.html.tar.gz bec0876d0c8176159f66c500bfba6db9 61404 byhand - policy.text.gz 3ed7aa5a489834b24bb28ff377a34aa9 10982 byhand - libc6-migration.text 1e4917c791262f0cd6de796444e51c86 7785 byhand - virtual-package-names-list.text 1d79d564a1ef0ff446aaef70b3d4e25d 2180 byhand - menu-policy.text.gz 1d83086f05b7879916bd5088af5af89e 1599 byhand - mime-policy.text.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ZTv6Ibrau78kQkwRAedfAJ9mOSQjUtHj/8HVJCSd6E32SEbOLgCg0FZH OQSU1m8L7YeIKQiZPyvtHrc= =lCEC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----