> From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Anthony Towns wrote: <snip> > > The *task* is really "usable 2d windowing environment for accessing > > programs", it's not kde, or gnome, or xlib, or motif. Is it really > > sensible to have the choice between the various windowing toolkits > > made here? Would it be better/possible to have a task-desktop that > > included both gnome and kde, and the best apps from both, > and just let > > the user use them? Obviously the packager would have to > make a choice > > amongst xdm, gdm and kdm, but that doesn't seem > unreasonably difficult. > > Yes, probably. Remember, task packages arn't about choice, or rather > they are about us making choices so a new user doesn't have to bother. >
If task packages can provide choice, why not let them? The task-gnome-desktop (or something like that) package was helpful to me when I wanted to install gnome, since it's made up of half-a-dozen packages. A task lets me just trust the developer, and assume that I'll get all of the neccessary packages to do the job. If it was task-desktop, with all of the desktops and windowmanagers in it, it would be bloated to the point of being unusable. <snip> > > gnome-games > > - i just want to play games, i don't care what toolkit they use But you don't want to have a task which requires you to install both KDE and GNOME, just to play some games. A task that had all games in it would do it. <snip> > > python-web > > - a general "i want to work on interactive web sites" > task would make > > sense to me (one that included, presumably, a free > java, and zope, > > and tomcat, and tools to do cgi in perl and python > and whatever else) > > but just for pythn? "apt-get install zope" if that's > what you want. Looking at task-python-web's packages, apt-get install zope wouldn't get you everything you'd want for python web development. > > I think I agree with all of these. We should file bugs to get them > removed. > What's the purpose of removing them? They can't take up very many HW resources, and presumably whoever's created them has done so for a purpose. If the point is to avoid confusing newcomers, why not just rename the "deviant" packages to some other name (e.g., "group-python-web", instead of "task-python-web")? Dave (p.s., I'm not subscribed to debian-policy, so please CC: me if you respond).
