>>"Seth" == Seth R Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Seth> Manoj, Michael, I can see where you are coming from, and it makes a good Seth> deal of sense -- but part of me thinks it is folly to require *that* level Seth> of understanding before packaging a program, and expect it after being Seth> packaged. I think that far from being folly, it is imperative to do that lest we let the quality of the distribution slide. Seth> Some programs are just complex -- not many people can claim to Seth> know what every file in the linux kernel can do. No. But anyone who can't figure what a binary is doing after looking at the sources and comments and other docs, and who is not willing to go ask the author/ mailing list, should not be packaging that program. Why is there such an imperative need to get every peice of software out there i Debian, no matter how sloppily it is packaged? Seth> While I agree that maintainers should know more about their Seth> packages than the average end user, to expect them to know it Seth> as well as the upstream authors just doesn't seem realistic. In Seth> the end, the maintainers of packages are end users, people that Seth> used a package often enough that they desire to maintain it, Seth> for the good of the project. Maintainers aren't employed by Seth> anyone to know something inside and out, so they must spend Seth> their time earning a living. I think this must be understood. I disagree quite strongly with that. A package maintainer is not a user turned bureaucrat. If you do not know, and are not willing to learn about a package, please let a more competent person handle it. If there is no other competent person, then perhaps Debian does not need the package. Seth> Perhaps what we should be after, is having maintainers that Seth> know their packages well enough to track down user's questions Seth> in a reasonable amount of time. Isn't that what we are really Seth> after? What we are after is trying to produce the best free distribution there is. Not the free, mediocre distribution. When did we loose the drive to be the best there is? Seth> Who cares if the maintainer knew the answer before or after the Seth> question was asked, as long as the answer comes back in a Seth> reasonable amount of time? Yes, But the issue was people who punted on man pages, and had no intention of providing the answer. Seth> Our large community model just doesn't allow for maintainers to Seth> spend all day working on their programs -- to expect otherwise Seth> would alienate many. Question: would the distribution quality really suffer if we did alienate them? manoj -- If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank. Woody Allen Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C