Hi, >>"Gord" == Gordon Matzigkeit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Gord> I keep forgetting that not everybody thinks the same way I do. Quite so. Gord> I think that the FSF definition of free software Gord> (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) will soon include a fifth Gord> level of freedom: Gord> ``The freedom to use the best features of the program, while Gord> boycotting all non-free software. (freedom 4)'' Gord> This is just an approximate wording... I'm sure there'll be better Gord> words for it later. Note that this will put the GNU definition of Gord> Free Software in direct conflict with Open Source(tm). Many suits Gord> will not be pleased. And, I think, would take the Free software foundation furhter away from the Linux community in general. So be it. It is certainly their right. However, I think that I am glad that Linus is in charge, and he seems less radical Gord> Last week, the FSF hired me to coordinate the release of GNU 1.0, and Gord> I, personally, would like it to be *Debian* GNU 1.0. Gord> If GNU accepts the freedom to boycott, but Debian chooses to reject Gord> it, then I will have no choice but to fork a new distribution, and Gord> encourage people to leave Debian. :( Please do so. I personally think that would be better rather than tryuing to shoe horn Debian in the the FSF way of thinking. It is my opinion, and shared by a number of other developers, that Debian is way less radical than the FSF, more middle of the road (I wish Alex were here to balance you). Id would be perfect. A distribution based on Debian from Corel. A distribution based on Debian from the FSF. We listen to both, but are not propreitary, or radical, as either of the derived distributions. Gord> I think that's a highly unlikely scenario, though... there are so many Gord> different ways we can accept the freedom to boycott. I think you may have to rethink that. manoj -- A programmer from a very large computer company went to a software conference and then returned to report to his manager, saying: "What sort of programmers work for other companies? They behaved badly and were unconcerned with appearances. Their hair was long and unkempt and their clothes were wrinkled and old. They crashed out hospitality suites and they made rude noises during my presentation." The manager said: "I should have never sent you to the conference. Those programmers live beyond the physical world. They consider life absurd, an accidental coincidence. They come and go without knowing limitations. Without a care, they live only for their programs. Why should they bother with social conventions?" "They are alive within the Tao." Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E