Hi, BTW, if we are deciding to throw out free software cause it is useless, I vote we throw out vi, which is perfectly useless with *any* amount of non-free software ;-)
To be more serious, I think deciding to throw software out of debian on merit or utility (or purity -- remember that one?) is starting down a slippery slope. If it requires non-free software to compile, or install, that is one thing. enabling a free machine to talk to the big, bad, non-free world out there is not. It enables us to be a more, umm, _capable_, part of that world until we have free alternatives to the components we are missing. Rome was not built in a day. All non-free servers need not be replaced in one either. A client is a good start. Pissing off people who are attempting to create free software in a largely proprietary world and castigating them because they did not do a complete job hurts the community. Remember, GNU started with a not-yet-so-good compiler running on a proprietary system. manoj who thinks people oftern lose sight of the big picture -- "It is tempting to take the easy political path ... to get peace at any price now, even though I know that a peace of humiliation for the United States would lead to a bigger war or surrender later." Richard M. Nixon, April 30, 1970 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E