> Did Ondrej say that we need a public buildd? Actually that is something > I would ratner not do because I have certain (very bad) experience with > it. When we kept the uploaded binary (.deb) packages our support mailbox > was literally flooded with end-users (!) complaints that the packages > were buggy. They used it as debian-multimedia or other inofficial binary > package repositories. I think that making it more a PPA-style service it > a good idea - for *source* packages. But don't you think the focus is > still the sponsoring process? I can't think of a case where people want > to publish Debian packages but don't want them to get into Debian.
PPA is a means how to get the packages to Debian and to ease the process of it, for everyone. And I think we need a public PPA. Your technical counterarguments can be solved imho, see below. Besides those you also have a social argument - that you fear it will actually decrease the number of new packages in Debian, or that it will increase the number of unhappy users. I think it will actually be the opposite, but that's just my opinion. ------- By providing buildbots as a debian package, so that anyonce with a computing power can just install the bot and it will automatically start compiling the packages and uploading them to PPA etc (as to security, I am sure that can be solved satisfactorily too). The traffic can be solved by providing an easy packages, so that more people can host PPA on their servers. Etc. Basically I think all of those and similar problems can be solved, if we want to. > > There is of course a question who will provide the resources for > > DebPPA. > > You could at least ping the experimental/backports/volatile people. Right. But even if we don't find anyone now, who can host it, I still would like to have those packages, so that I can at least easily install it for myself. > > I started: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/debppa/ > > Why on code.google.com? Is Alioth not good enough? Google has much better interface and I can create wiki pages with documentation in there. But alioth is powered by gforge, right? That looks quite good too: http://gforge.org/projects/gforge/ And even seems to have wiki. Is alioth going to be upgraded? Ondrej -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]