Hi Christian,

On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 04:55:55PM GMT, Christian Kastner wrote:
> Hi Tiago,
> 
> On 2025-01-17 14:51, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> > It is very much appreciated that you were diligent and consulted
> > documentation (and this list) before trying to sponsor packages as a DM.
> > Technically, it's not possible. See:
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer#Granting_Permissions
> 
> I think there might be a misunderstanding here: the above article is
> about granting someone else upload privileges. Whereas here, we have a
> DM who already has upload privileges, who would upload a version of a
> team-maintained package that was prepared by another team member who
> themselves aren't a DM yet.

Thanks for pointing out. What I understood is that a DD hasn't given
upload privilegies for those packages (because the DM isn't the
maintainer of those packages), but still proposed him to sponsor them.
I assumed that the DD wasn't aware that it wouldn't be possible, but it
seems I was the one who didn't quite understand the question :-)

> This obviously cannot be a problem if contributions to the new version
> were split 50/50 or even 80/20 between the DM and non-DM, as that is the
> nature of a team-maintained package.
> 
> I posit that it shouldn't be a problem for the DM to upload even in the
> 0/100 case. If the DM is given trust do to uploads, that implies trust
> that the DM will review the uploads, and has the necessary skills to
> identify and correct any defects, including those caused by other team
> members (DD or not).

Yes, that makes sense. 

> This is just the "formal" view. On a technical level, I don't see what
> could stop a DM for going ahead with this regardless, as the only
> obstacle could possibly be the Changes line, and the DM could simply
> change that before upload.

I don't know how dak works on that level, but yes, worst scenario
changing the Changes would do it (so something like a team-upload in the
end).

Bests,

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Tiago

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