Hi David,

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 08:00:47PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> So, technically this isn't autoremove being clever, it is "just" some
> code hidden deep in the internal solving that makes autoremove look
> good later on – and one of the reasons why alternative solvers like
> aspcud, solver3 or the one in aptitude have a hard time catching up.
> Resolving Depends is (fsvo) easy, the fun starts with Recommends and
> heuristics like this one.
> 
> (So, why not autoremove, you ask? It would need to invent a way for the
>  user to declare that they want to keep the transitional package anyhow
>  for example)

That's significantly more voodoo than I was expecting but it seems
reasonable :)

The only question I have is can we document this better?  Looking through
the pertinent manuals (policy, devref, newmaint, debmake) I dont find any
mention of these mechanisms. Am I missing some obvious place or keywords?

Devref only mentions deborphan but that's an entirely seperate thing as I
understand it.

> Bonus tip:
> If you 'cheat' and test your upgrades with `dpkg -i` this and many other
> things wont happen, so don't cheat, test them properly! If you don't
> feel like setting up a repository you can skip that with e.g.
> apt full-upgrade --with-source ./path/to/foo.changes

Now I feel smart for always upgrade-testing with my full blown local apt
repo despite not having had any idea what's going on behind the scenes :D

Thanks for taking the time to explain this David, --with-source is also new
to me and was already super useful for libcurlfs upgrade testing :)

--Daniel

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