On Thu, 2024-07-04 at 15:44 +0200, Daniel Gröber wrote: > On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 06:28:17PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 03:22:35PM +0200, Daniel Gröber wrote: > > > > I don't think this is necessary or helpful: most RFSes are sponsored > > > > because they are in a good shape and somebody decided to sponsor them, > > > > not > > > > because a sponsor is actually interested in that software. > > > > https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/ makes sense to me: you either find > > > > a > > > > relevant team or wait until people that sponsor random packages sponsor > > > > yours. Knowing what does the package actually do is mostly useful to > > > > skip > > > > ones that don't deserve sponsoring. > > > > > > Andrey, when was the last time you requested sponsorship on a package with > > > an identity that's not yet well established in the project? Perhaps you > > > should try it next time you want to have something in Debian and see what > > > happens. > > > > Sorry? I know that we have a problem with not having enough sponsors and > > that many RFSes, especially for new packages, are open for months, I'm > > just saying that providing more info about a package won't help solve it. > > Sponsors are more likeley to pick up a package if it's personally > interesting to them, that's just human nature. Making the ITP/RFS more > appealing doesn't really fix the root cause, no, but many of us work on > Debian because it's intrinically interesting, no? So why shouldn't new > contributors try to maximize the appeal of their work to motivate us DDs to > look at it? > > More motivation for sponsors -> fewer sponsors needed overall :) > > --Daniel
Hi Daniel, Andrey, I agree with Andrey that many packages are sponsored because they are in good shape rather than a particuler DD having a personal interest in the area of a Request For Sponsorship (RFS) package. I do have one very busy DD (ain't they all) who has indicated that they will accept infrequent packages suggested by me based on a particular technology area, but this is rare. Motivation for DD sponsors can be partly accomplished by lowering the workload when they take a package on. Reduction in basic errors and as Andrey stated having packages in good order makes it easier on a busy DD who may be getting pulled in a variety of directions i.e. real world, own packages, NMUs, QA/Orphaned and of course mentors. I believe we have started the beginnings of this with contributors being all put through the same review with specific tests they should pass. This is an evolving process and by no means complete with all suggestions welcome. Motivation for contributors also needs to be addressed. Contributors need a friendly atmosphere and not fear being wrong and stung with short snippy feedback on Request For Sponsorship (RFS) bug reports - We all started somewhere. Contributors need hints, links to correct information and encouragement to feel that they are getting there and instilling good packaging and maintenance habits for when they make submissions in the future. Not going to write an essay, but just some thoughts. Regards Phil -- Internet Relay Chat (IRC): kathenas Website: https://kathenas.org Instagram: https://instagram.com/kathenasorg/ Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg
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