Hello, Am Freitag, 30. August 2013, 16:47:35 schrieb Faheem Mitha: > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013, Benjamin Eikel wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Am Dienstag, 20. August 2013, 14:18:49 schrieb Faheem Mitha: > >> Hi Charles, > >> > >> I'm forwarding information from Dr. Wickham about the data file in the > >> munsell package as requested by you. See your email at the bottom, Let > >> me know what followup you want, if any. I think contacting the authors > >> of a 1943 paper is unlikely to be successful. We could contact the > >> people who put this data online (presumably people at RIT) to ask them > >> what they think. There is a feedback page at > >> http://www.cis.rit.edu/mcsl/contact. > > > > did anybody contact the people there? If not, I can do it and ask about > > the usage/license of the data. > > I haven't contacted them. Feel free to do so.
I used the contact form to ask for the data's license. I will report back when I got an answer. Kind regards Benjamin > > Regards, Faheem > > > Kind regards > > Benjamin > > > >> Regards, Faheem > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:29:44 -0700 > >> From: Charlotte Wickham <cwick...@gmail.com> > >> To: Faheem Mitha <fah...@faheem.info> > >> Subject: Re: Debian enquiry about data files in munsell > >> > >> I obtained real.dat from http://www.cis.rit.edu/mcsl/online/munsell.php > >> which is a digitization of Table 1 in: S. M. NEWHALL, D. NICKERSON, and > >> D. B. JUDD. Final report of the o.s.a. subcommittee on the spacing of the > >> munsell colors. J. Opt. Soc. Am., 33(7):385–411, 07 1943. > >> > >> It shouldn't be copyrighted for two reasons: (1) it's data, (2) it's > >> produced by employees of the federal govt, but I don't have any proof of > >> that. > >> > >> I'm updating my package documentation to improve the description of the > >> source data. > >> > >> Charlotte > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Faheem Mitha <fah...@faheem.info> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've been (sort of) deputized by the Debian Med team, who are > >> trying > >> > >> to get munsell into Debian as r-cran-munsell. But they have hit a bit of > >> a > >> hitch. The FTPmasters, who are Debian's gatekeepers, are wondering about > >> the data files in munsell. > >> > >> You ship the file R/sysdata.rda which can be created from the text > >> > >> file inst/raw/real.dat using inst/raw/getmunsellmap.R. > >> > >> So, Debian wants to know where this data table inst/raw/real.dat > >> > >> comes from, how it was created, and what the preferred way to modify it > >> is. > >> > >> There are a couple of issues here. First, I think it is simply a > >> > >> question of what the license for inst/raw/real.dat is. Secondly, Debian > >> policy says that source files should be shipped in the preferred form for > >> modification. > >> > >> But if necessary Charles or one of the other Debian Med people can > >> > >> clarify. > >> > >> Regards > >> , > >> > >> Faheem > >> > >> On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > >>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 08:28:35 +0900 > >>> From: Charles Plessy <ple...@debian.org> > >>> To: Faheem Mitha <fah...@faheem.info> > >>> Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org, debian-med@lists.debian.org > >>> Subject: Re: best policies for third party Debian packaging and > >>> get-orig-source target> > >>> > >>> Le Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 03:00:25AM +0530, Faheem Mitha a écrit : > >>>> r-cran-scales is now in Debian, but r-cran-ggplot2 has not yet been > >>>> updated. I see that r-cran-scales is not installable, because it > >>>> depends on r-cran-munsell, which is not in Debian, at least not > >>>> currently on my mirror for amd64. > >>> > >>> Hi Faheem, > >>> > >>> r-cran-munsell was submitted to the Debian archive and is currently > >>> under > >>> review. > >>> > >>> http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/r-cran-munsell_0.4-1.html > >>> > >>> However, it contains a binary file, 'sysdata.rda', that is data table in > >>> a > >>> compressed format. The question is whether it is generated and > >>> refreshed > >>> by the upstream author using a source file that is not distributed in > >>> the > >>> source package. Such a work would not be Free according to our > >>> principles.> > >>> > >>> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2013-A > >>> ug > >>> ust/021177.html> > >>> > >>> In the newer upstream version 0.4.2, there is a script to generate > >>> sysdata.rda from another file, real.dat, in text format. There is no > >>> information on where this table comes from, how was it created, and what > >>> is the preferred way to modify it. > >>> > >>> If you had time to contact the upstream authors and get this point > >>> clarified, that would be a tremendous help. In the meantime, it may be > >>> difficult to update r-cran-ggplot2. I have asked for a temporary > >>> exemption, but I did not receive an answer yet. > >>> > >>> http://lists.debian.org/20130807233230.ga12...@falafel.plessy.net > >>> > >>> Have a nice day, > >>> > >>> > >>> PS: I had a quick look at corrmodel (but did not have time to test it), > >>> and did not find obvious problems. For the package containing the R > >>> scripts, it may not be necessary to name it according to the convention > >>> for packaged R modules, since it is not a R module. By the way, is it a > >>> software to study clonotypes ? I have a (much simpler) work on line at > >>> http://clonotyper.branchable.com/ > >>> > >>> Cheers, > > Under the two moons of Hydrot, and under the eternal stars, the > two-inch wooden spaceship and its microscopic cargo toiled down the > slope toward the drying little rivulet. > -- > James Blish - Surface Tension -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-med-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2609079.aFkhSKQpi6@pc-benjamin
