Hi

We have this fairly well described here:
https://security-team.debian.org/security_tracker.html

Should that page be updated in some way?

// Ola

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 11:11, Sylvain Beucler <b...@beuc.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 02/03/2020 06:53, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 01:57:05AM -0000, Chris Lamb wrote:
> >>> Internally they are all no-dsa states for the tracker. But think of it
> >>> of three "flavours" of no-dsa.
> >>>
> >>> For instance for postponed, we think that an update is woth of a DSA,
> >>> but it makes no sense to just release a DSA for it and the issue
> >>> should be tried to be included in a next update (be it DSA or even a
> >>> point release do not mather, but it has a stronger meaning that if a
> >>> future update is to be done then yes this needs to be included as well
> >>> if possible).
> >>>
> >>> The regular no-dsa is weker in in this regard. It just means, there is
> >>> no need or an update via security for it. It can be fixed for instance
> >>> via a point release *but* it is not expcluded that you can piggy-back
> >>> such a fix as well once a DSA worthy issue appear and you want to
> >>> issue a DSA/DLA.
> >>>
> >>> ignored is the stronges on the other part. It indicates from the
> >>> security-team perspective (or LTS team) we generally will not look
> >>> again at the issue (well expecptions can exists). It is a falvour of
> >>> no-dsa but meaning it even a future evaluation its likely just skiped.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ooh, this was very helpful; thank you. Indeed, can we get these very
> >> rough-and-ready definitions copy-pasted somewhere?
> >>
> >> However imprecise (and maybe just at first within the LTS pages, but
> >> whatever…) but I bet that would be very beneficial to new contributors
> >> and, well, to me too — I feel like there have been times in the past
> >> when I have not been as precise as I would have liked on the
> >> distinction between <ignored> and <no-dsa>, incorrectly thinking them
> >> to be essentially synonymous.
> >
> > Yes sure (fixing my obvious english grammar issues and typos). We have
> > a very "high level" view on this in [1], but it might make sense to
> > add some verbose explanation/outline on this on your repsective LTS
> > subpage where issue triage is documented. The most important bit is, I
> > think to explain they are basically all no-dsa, but "smell directions"
> > or flavours, with strongness on how the respective team will consider
> > they.
> >
> >  [1]
> https://security-team.debian.org/security_tracker.html#issues-not-warranting-a-security-advisory
>
> If we need to document/precise [1] in LTS documentation, I'd recommend
> sticking to <ignore|postponed> as much as possible, since no-dsa
> basically means triage is not complete.
>
> Cheers!
> Sylvain
>
>

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