On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 02:02:11PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > (intentional thread break) > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 02:48:27PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > RPSL 12.6 requires a fee for distribution, violating DFSG 1. > > > > I'm fairly certain that there isn't clear consensus on this. > > Regardless of whether choice of venue is a "fee", the only people I've > seen who appear to believe that choice of venue is free are you, Lex > Spoon and Sven Luther. > > On the other side, we appear to have: Edmund Evans, Steve Langasek, > Andrew Suffield, Brian Sniffen, Evan Prodromou, Branden Robinson, Josh > Triplett, Michael Poole, MJ Ray, Nathanael Nerode, Henning Makholm, Raul > Miller, Matthew Palmer, Walter Landry, and myself.
So, there is : 4 against 15, or rhougly 21 % of people who think that choice of venue could be a "fee". IS 80% enough to get consensus ? Also, i belive of some you listed, some consider choice of venue non-free, but don't consider it as a fee, if i remember well. > Informal and inexact as my reading of these people's posts may be, I > honestly think you overstate the disagreement on this issue ... Well, i think if the question would be if the choice of venue consitutes a fee, and thus violate DFSG 1, or is not a fee and thus either needs a new DFSG entry, or violate DFSG 5 by discriminating against licence violators far away from the chosen venue, then you would have a much less consensual situation still. BTW, mt upstream is ready to drop choice of venue from the QPLish licence, so i won't argue here, but i still believe that one has to be hallucinating to consider choice of venue a fee. The DFSG 5 problem i may admit, but choice of venue as fee, not. Friendly, Sven Luther