On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 08:58:39PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Regardless of whether choice of venue is a "fee", the only people I've > > seen who appear to believe that choice of venue is free are you, Lex > > Spoon and Sven Luther.
> So, there is : 4 against 15, or rhougly 21 % of people who think that choice > of venue could be a "fee". IS 80% enough to get consensus ? For the sake of my own understanding of people's opinions, was there a fourth? > Also, i belive of some you listed, some consider choice of venue non-free, but > don't consider it as a fee, if i remember well. That's what I meant in my first paragraph--I'm among them. > Well, i think if the question would be if the choice of venue consitutes a > fee, and thus violate DFSG 1, or is not a fee and thus either needs a new DFSG > entry, or violate DFSG 5 by discriminating against licence violators far away > from the chosen venue, then you would have a much less consensual situation > still. > > BTW, mt upstream is ready to drop choice of venue from the QPLish licence, so > i won't argue here, but i still believe that one has to be hallucinating to > consider choice of venue a fee. The DFSG 5 problem i may admit, but choice of > venue as fee, not. My opinion is that choice of venue is a restriction, and that "fees" are just one example of restrictions which "may not restrict" in DFSG#1 disallows. Another restriction I believe would be in this class is "you may only distribute this program on Thursday". (I agree that calling either of these a fee is a stretch.) -- Glenn Maynard