On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 11:21:22AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
> Sven Luther writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 03:50:33PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> >
> >> IIRC, there is no requirement for a private individual to be 
> >> represented by a lawyer in an English court, although many are. 
> >> Additionally, the case would probably be heard in the appropriate 
> >> court nearest to the defendant, so travel costs are minimal, and there 
> >> may be Legal Aid available. Therefore, the need to hire a lawyer local 
> >> to Versailles is a significant additional expense an abusive licensor 
> >> can make the defendant pay, apparently on a whim.
> >
> > Well, some could argue that you could directly write to the judge then, and
> > explain why the claim of the upstream author should not apply, and maybe 
> > make
> > mention of the harrasment you are suffering from his part.
> >
> > I am not familiar with this kind of stuff, so if you have hard evidence that
> > this would not be possible, please tell me about this.
> 
> I don't know about French courts, but I suspect they have procedural
> rules on how one does things just like US courts do.
> 
> In the US, you can go to a court in person, fill out forms, and the
> staff will often tell you whether you meet the forms' requirements.
> They will not give advice on how to word them, but you can at least
> know you put the right words in the right blanks, and you can read
> public filings from the past to see what worked and what did not.
> 
> These forms vary from court to court, as do the deadlines and
> requirements for submission (online, registered mail, in person, etc).
> Many, but not all, courts now have those requirements listed online;
> and you may still have to appear in person for certain steps.
> 
> Examples of that are pre-trial conferences, where both sides must be
> physically present (either in person or through counsel) before the
> judge, so that they can efficiently agree on scheduling and procedural
> issues.

Ok, still do you think that a judge would have no consideration if the
defendent is a poor student on the other side of the world, or otherwise has
not the physical means to be present ? And in this case, how could the judge
make the judgement binding anyway ? 

> That's the general answer to your question.
> 
> The more specific answer is that a simple letter will not meet any
> requirements for a case to be dismissed in the USA.  A defendant who
> wants a case dismissed has to file a motion, usually a memorandum in
> support, the opposing side (the person who filed the case) gets a
> chance to rebut, etc.  It is very easy for a novice to make mistakes
> that cause the motion to fail on procedural grounds.
> 
> Details of the French system will of course be different, but unless
> they think very differently about procedural matters, it should be
> comparable.

Let's keep in mind that the case at hand is one where we want to protect the
defendent from legal harassment. If so, i think there should easily be able to
put some doubt in the mind of the judge even with a simple letter.

I also believe that there most assuredly are some jurisprudence about similar
kind of issues.

But again, the DFSG makes no provision whatsoever for this kind of things.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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