Scripsit Jeroen Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 12:57:40AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > For example, I would take some of the RFC's, c&p from them, add texinfo > > markup and include bits of them in documentation of GNU software. > IANAL, I don't know if adding texinfo markup to them is considered > making a derivative work or just distributing, you don't change the > text itself. I don't think "derived work" is the key phrase here. As far as I understand it, a derived work is one where the derivor has made enough independent choices that the resulting work is governed by the joint copyright of the original author and the derivor (i.e. one needs separate permissions from both of them to copy it). However, what we talk about here is *modified* work, which also covers modifications that are not derivations. "Modified" is not even a legally defined term, I think, because copyright law makes it illegal to copy the law without the copyright holder's permission no matter whether it has been modified. It makes perfect legal sense to grant that permission either "as long as the bit pattern of the copy is exactly unchanged", or "as long as the words are the same and in the same order", or something in between - and there's no need for the law to define which of those is the proper meaning of "modified". > To quote the RFC copyright notice from RFC 2026 "Internet Standards > Process": Just for the record, I don't think RFC 2026 is technical documentation. It documents a social process, not a technical one. But the same copyright notice is found in newer technical RFCs. > the original dicussion was about the RFC copyright. I still don't see > how this license really restricts the user, the things you were > talking are allowed. Enlighten me if I'm wrong. It says that modification is not allowed "except as needed for the purpose of developing Internet standards in which case the procedures for copyrights defined in the Internet Standards process must be followed". That means that if I and a group of like-minded people want to experiment with an email transport system where the mail agents demand micropayments prior to accepting a mail for delivery (to effectively eliminate spamming), we are not allowed to document our experimental special-purpose delivery protocol simply by distributing a document based on the text from RFC 2821, but with appropriate changes - unless we decide to wait and put up with whatever bureaucracy the "Internet Standards process" entails. Of course, we will be allowed to distribute a document that describes the *differences* between SMTP and our new protocol, which in a sense is akin to distributing software changes as patches. That means that *perhaps*, by analogy, we should consider the RFC's free - but the patch clause in the DFSG was always a compromise, and I don't think it will do anybody any good to extend it to documentation, now that the trend seems to be towards a stricter application of the DFSG to software that we've had some years ago. -- Henning Makholm "Jeg forstår mig på at anvende sådanne midler på folks legemer, at jeg kan varme eller afkøle dem, som jeg vil, og få dem til at kaste op, hvis det er det, jeg vil, eller give afføring og meget andet af den slags."