On 20-Aug-01, 12:12 (CDT), Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:34:08AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > On 18-Aug-01, 22:46 (CDT), Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bitmapped fonts are not copyrightable in the United States. > > > > > > Hinted fonts, because they contain what could be construed as > > > algorithmic or programmatic constructs, are copyrightable. > > > > That sounds more like a distinction for a patent than a copyright. > > I don't understand your reasoning here.
Very broadly: Copyright applies to the particular expression of an idea -- the particular code that implements an algorithm. Patents apply more to the idea itself -- algorithms, mechanism, etc. (Both as I'm sure you know...) But now that I write that, I see that hinted fonts *do* fit better into the first category, in that it's the particular hinting code that is being copyrighted, not font hinting in general or a particular algorithm -- I carelessly read "algorithmic" without thinking sufficiently about what was actually going on with hinted fonts. > > > I can copyright a painting (or rather, copyright applies to paintings, > > photography, and other visual works). > > A moment's reflection will reveal that letterforms are not quite the > same thing as paintings, photographs, and other visual works. And paintings are not sculpture, nor are they books, and the shape of a SC Cobra is not the same as a photograph. Some visual works are copyrightable, some aren't. Font designs strike me (a non-expert) as something reasonable to copyright (apparently incorrectly). > > Has there been a published decision that copyright doesn't apply to > > bitmap font? > > I'll see if I can find one for you, but if I recall correctly it is > regarding as following from legal handling of old molten-lead > typography, wherein the engraved plates ("fonts") used for printing > enjoyed legal protection, but their visual analogues on paper (the > "typeface") did not. In other words, if you were to design and cast > your own font using your own labor after visually inspecting someone > else's typeface, you were perfectly free to do so. Hmmm, shades of the look-and-feel copyright argument. Okay, don't bother looking up the actual reference, I was just confused. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Please do not CC me on mail sent to this list; I subscribe to and read every list I post to.)