On 2 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I formally propose that SPI step in and take control of its intellectual > > property. > > I concur.
Third for that. > > So far I can name two such instances in which non-free licenses are being > > called Open Source. The first is Apple's license > > The other real recent example may or may not have been directly endorsed > > by OSI---I don't know for certain. The bitkeeper license is NOT Open > > Source > > I spoke with Larry McVoy on the phone yesterday, it's very clear that he > is _not_ promoting the license as Open Source, and OSI is not accepting it > as such. > What a little more disturbing was seeing ESR asked in an interview about the "New Copyleft" license. He said it might be time to rethink the Open Source Definition to include such a beast. I wish I had the reference. Anyway, I think this kind of statement bodes very badly for the OpenSource trademark, if SPI doesn't assert its ownership of the mark. This is not to say I think ESR is evil. I have been very disturbed to see some of the comments on slashdot, and in articles, regarding this division over the Open Source tm. Frankly, the subtext of ESR's announcements always seem to indicate that he's really for free software, but sees gaining market share (and attracting commercial companies) is the only realistic way to gain the mind share of the public and demarginalize the issue. In a very real way he's correct - any time you want to take a radical position and make it more acceptable, you have to move the middle ground in that direction. Also, I agree with his analysis of the benefits of making the source available, even if its not free, because it does benefit the people who, for one reason or another, feel they must use that platform. So, in general, I see any move toward more liberal licensing of code as progress towards the overall goal of free software. That said, I also believe the purpose of the Open Source trademark should not so much be to help advertise products as to inform the consumer as to the status of the license. This is especially important in light of all the various licenses that have been proliferating lately. In this regard, I believe the branding body (whether OSI, or a committee of SPI) should play a role analagous to Consumer Reports, though it does allow the use of the "rating" in advertising. Perhaps we should consider "levels" of Open Source, rather than a simple binary switch. Then would could these levels to indicate where in the spectrum a license falls, so the developer wouldn't have to read the license looking for tricky legalese. Actually, "levels" might not be quite right either, as the classification might not be strictly hierarchical, but it would be a start. Lynn